Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'backwards': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'roger': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'entries,': 0.16; 'mark,': 0.16; 'nightmare.': 0.16; 'posted,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subprocess': 0.16; 'threads': 0.16; 'umpteen': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'mostly': 0.27; 'not.': 0.27; 'outlook': 0.28; 'about.': 0.29; 'environment': 0.29; 'certainly': 0.30; 'convention': 0.30; 'posts': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'related': 0.32; 'good.': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'but': 0.36; 'monday,': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'agree': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'hundreds': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; 'complete': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'you.': 0.64; 'between': 0.65; "they're": 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'business': 0.69; 'august': 0.75; 'easier,': 0.84; 'hunter': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'taught': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Pipes Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:36:24 +0100 References: <3bf7a462-2c70-4e53-bfc6-86b5acb9f5f8@googlegroups.com> <20150809222725.GA35504@cskk.homeip.net> <0436295b-bf99-4956-b24e-a6dcd78e161e@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-223-70.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 In-Reply-To: <0436295b-bf99-4956-b24e-a6dcd78e161e@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1439217420 news.xs4all.nl 2842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43529 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95222 On 10/08/2015 15:05, rogerh906@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 7:45:28 AM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 10/08/2015 03:55, Roger Hunter wrote: >>> I agree that some of Python is simple but the description of subprocess >>> is certainly not. >>> >>> I spent much of my working career using Fortran and TrueBasic on mainframes. >> >> That's good. It means that you were probably taught to read and write >> from left to right *AND* from top to bottom. Would you like to keep to >> that convention here please as it makes following long threads much >> easier, thank you. >> >> -- >> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask >> what you can do for our language. >> >> Mark Lawrence > > Sorry Mark, I don't know how these posts came out backward. I didn't do it. > > Roger > Nothing to worry about. It's mostly a result of people so used to M$ Outlook in a business environment that they don't stop to think about it. On short threads it's not a problem, but some Python related threads can run into hundreds of entries, all being bounced backwards and forwards between umpteen different technologies. Try reading those if they're all top posted, complete nightmare. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence