Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'algorithm': 0.04; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'column': 0.07; 'indices': 0.07; 'builtin': 0.09; 'grid': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'dict': 0.16; 'dictionaries': 0.16; 'exists)': 0.16; 'innermost': 0.16; 'iterating': 0.16; 'looping': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'meant': 0.20; 'solution.': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'error': 0.23; 'switched': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'array': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'program,': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; 'comparison': 0.31; 'keys': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'operations': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'entry': 0.36; 'seconds': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'implement': 0.38; 'e.g.': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'gone': 0.61; 'range': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'improvement.': 0.68; 'jul': 0.74; 'obvious': 0.74; 'subject:this': 0.83; 'trial': 0.83; 'hood': 0.84; 'occupied': 0.84; 'optimisation': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0c5EfhuQG2qdNpI+v1VrVd4WjeBq5yhSHaQX92xI+vo=; b=yHZQmaapaNejYRgY6iIl0Prus6wCJuP3i1p0ydN+//KEAOi0IEmbn5T9D+tv1At9bK uJ8+ZR/YQeMkdEjdPtjiqZMtNXoqIzBBXP85nxQsuhD5PCP/VdsCs7OS6ZacNcpreZy8 WcpZQxzcNjkBx2Mb+zDWrb84Njo7rYPQvL5pSAReYFllAk00cXj8iPdPqPyRk98fCY16 yd8i3FNIoYcZJUTAtCIbBe2tQrAVpM4ixfacTt73FsF/RWA874Vq8r5V5HdJNUmqmLon 2FuZTERNLyEJL/M7oxNXF//kxorZT/60stung4c/kkafOP4VZj/Rbeg4ljkQNXelTwkf 2s7g== X-Received: by 10.220.6.135 with SMTP id 7mr6979214vcz.72.1373035545292; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 07:45:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Oscar Benjamin Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:45:25 +0100 Subject: Re: How to make this faster To: Helmut Jarausch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 61 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1373035554 news.xs4all.nl 15975 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40803 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49989 On 5 July 2013 15:28, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 14:41:23 +0100, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > >> On 5 July 2013 11:53, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >>> I even tried to use dictionaries instead of Numpy arrays. This version is a bit >>> slower then the lists of lists version (7.2 seconds instead of 6 second) but still >>> much faster than the Numpy array solution. >> >> When you switched to dictionaries did you take advantage of the >> sparseness by iterating over dictionary keys instead of indices? This >> is the kind of thing that I meant when I said that in Python it's >> often easier to implement a better algorithm than in C. What I mean is >> that if Grid is a dict so that Grid[(r, c)] is the entry at row r and >> column c (if it exists) then you can change a loop like: >> >> for r in range(9): >> for c in range(9): >> if Grid[r, c] > 0: continue >> # do stuff >> >> so that it looks like: >> >> for r, c in Grid: >> # do stuff >> >> If the grid is sparsely occupied then this could be a significant improvement. >> > This gives a big speedup. Now, the time is gone down to 1.73 seconds in comparison to > original 13 seconds or the 7 seconds for the first version above. Presumably then you're now down to the innermost loop as a bottle-neck: Possibilities= 0 for d in range(1,10) : if Row_Digits[r,d] or Col_Digits[c,d] or Sqr_Digits[Sq_No,d] : continue Possibilities+= 1 If you make it so that e.g. Row_Digits[r] is a set of indices rather than a list of bools then you can do this with something like Possibilities = len(Row_Digits[r] | Col_Digits[c] | Sqr_Digits[Sq_No]) or perhaps Possibilities = len(set.union(Row_Digits[r], Col_Digits[c], Sqr_Digits[Sq_No])) which I would expect to be a little faster than looping over range since the loop is then performed under the hood by the builtin set-type. > Many thanks, > it seems hard to optimize a Python program, It just takes practice. It's a little less obvious in Python than in low-level languages where the bottlenecks will be and which operations are faster/slower but optimisation always involves a certain amount of trial and error anyway. Oscar