Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'say,': 0.05; 'that?': 0.05; 'damages': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'committing': 0.09; 'construed': 0.09; 'learner': 0.09; 'mixed': 0.09; "people's": 0.09; 'suggest': 0.14; '>>': 0.16; 'angle': 0.16; 'hierarchy': 0.16; 'imposing': 0.16; 'objection': 0.16; 'terribly': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'commit': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'putting': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; 'passes': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '>': 0.26; 'record': 0.27; 'robert': 0.30; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; '-0700,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'post.': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'supposed': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'offered': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'surely': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'clear': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'according': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'expression': 0.60; "you've": 0.63; 'high': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'civil': 0.65; 'jul': 0.74; 'air.': 0.84; 'dozens': 0.84; 'presumably': 0.84; 'ridiculously': 0.84; 'simmons': 0.84; 'treats': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87; 'yours': 0.88; 'reasoning': 0.91; 'rusi': 0.91; 'criminal': 0.95; 'hot': 0.96; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=T5f0anUTGLZxca412aDiU64594hhhC5avU9a8HEAUZM=; b=mPz9dWIj5yVHlPU1pY8WBDSl7GH2GM0qYXRXyZrTO9rwMTBorUSL87tdYVTtdfifm0 EcyYmSQmbaANhb5Vgc53CZNACGbMRqw/YyeG5ODonnbmKjB6XRMbQTaml3/ATVqASwM6 /zKdTrUa9EEHX3e4+TfvH48EaCqr8KnTEFQdXQEs77wILmgoDMfLtyKkuVaXJQxUhxYn D5yAJHtjR6WmxKAzPeMhQlYS4Epu0jFIaaf0ACt7YDoM0i15no7Ms7D2ajx+UQTQNCsA U5b56BoDkUsQaaOzYNH68NBTDv6pQukS99SqGpIszKTvUAiPRT5Oi33P7ejyyn6L0r2b Cp4A== X-Received: by 10.50.128.36 with SMTP id nl4mr3193839igb.38.1372957827528; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 10:10:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rustom Mody Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 22:40:07 +0530 Subject: Illegal suggestions on python list To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122a2aa99fcec04e0b2a76c X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 145 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372957831 news.xs4all.nl 15978 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51914 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49888 --089e0122a2aa99fcec04e0b2a76c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano < steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:02:26 -0700, rusi wrote: > > > On Thursday, July 4, 2013 7:03:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Simmons wrote: > >> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered > >> to commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A > >> PUBLIC FORUM. Please think before you post. > > > > For the record Steve, let me say, I find Robert Kern's objection barely > > sufficient. > > > > And yours less than that. > > > > Note that you are not objecting to the crime > > Which crime is that? Presumably you mean an actual criminal felony, not a > mere civil offence. Under which jurisdiction? > > > > but to the public > > expression of it. Just look at your objection from the angle of a police > > officer, and you will see that it can certainly be construed as > > abetment/collusion > > If piracy is a crime, and not just a civil offence, then surely so is > libel. You have just accused Steve Simmons of collusion in a felony, > based on absolutely no evidence at all. That's as clear a case of libel > as I've ever seen. Although I'm not sure that the damages should be > terribly high -- there's little evidence that anyone treats your > ridiculously exaggerated claims about other people's supposed crimes as > anything but hot air. > > But, putting damages aside, according to what passes for the reasoning > that you have demonstrated here, your committing libel would make you > equally a "petty criminal" as Nikos. > > > Speaking of petty, this whole witch-hunt is getting ridiculous. Don't you > have something more productive to do? Accusing people of colluding in > crimes because they fail to be sufficiently zealous in "objecting to the > crime" is nuts. > > > -- > Steven > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > You've got your OO class hierarchy mixed up and then imposing that on me. See http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/crimes-felonies-misdemeanors-infractions-classification-33814.html I did not say or suggest felony. Maybe misdemeanor or infarction. Dunno which. 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On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Steven D= 'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info&g= t; wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:02:= 26 -0700, rusi wrote:

> On Thursday, July 4, 2013 7:03:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Simmons wrote: >> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just off= ered
>> to commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON= A
>> PUBLIC FORUM. Please think before you post.
>
> For the record Steve, let me say, I find Robert Kern's objection b= arely
> sufficient.
>
> And yours less than that.
>
> Note that you are not objecting to the crime

Which crime is that? Presumably you mean an actual criminal felony, n= ot a
mere civil offence. Under which jurisdiction?


> but to the public
> expression of it. Just look at your objection from the angle of a poli= ce
> officer, and you will see that it can certainly be construed as
> abetment/collusion

If piracy is a crime, and not just a civil offence, then surely so is=
libel. You have just accused Steve Simmons of collusion in a felony,
based on absolutely no evidence at all. That's as clear a case of libel=
as I've ever seen. Although I'm not sure that the damages should be=
terribly high -- there's little evidence that anyone treats your
ridiculously exaggerated claims about other people's supposed crimes as=
anything but hot air.

But, putting damages aside, according to what passes for the reasoning
that you have demonstrated here, your committing libel would make you
equally a "petty criminal" as Nikos.


Speaking of petty, this whole witch-hunt is getting ridiculous. Don't y= ou
have something more productive to do? Accusing people of colluding in
crimes because they fail to be sufficiently zealous in "objecting to t= he
crime" is nuts.


--
Steven
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


You've got your OO class hierarc= hy mixed up and then imposing that on me.

See
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclo= pedia/crimes-felonies-misdemeanors-infractions-classification-33814.html

I did not say or suggest felony.
Maybe misdemeanor or infarction. Du= nno which. IANAL...

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