Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'backwards': 0.09; 'creighton': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'tcl/tk': 0.09; 'url:mac': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; "apple's": 0.16; 'current:': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'url:tcltk': 0.16; 'walzer': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'app': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'shipped': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'assuming': 0.22; 'tkinter': 0.22; 'kevin': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; 'third-party': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'url:download': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'compatible': 0.27; '+0200,': 0.27; 'this.': 0.28; 'ago': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'e.g.': 0.30; 'says': 0.32; 'older': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'weeks': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'gets': 0.35; 'python.org': 0.35; 'done': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; '(i.e.': 0.36; 'apple': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'mac': 0.37; 'release': 0.37; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.37; 'wanted': 0.37; 'version': 0.38; 'christian': 0.38; 'building': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'build': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'future': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'provide': 0.61; 'is.': 0.63; 'linked': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'managers': 0.63; 'information': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'business': 0.69; 'jul': 0.72; 'received:204': 0.75; 'article': 0.77; '8.6': 0.84; 'gollwitzer': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Deily Subject: Re: beginners choice: wx or tk? Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 08:09:41 -0700 References: <201507111448.t6BEmH6Z025227@fido.openend.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.28.118.160 User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1436627406 news.xs4all.nl 2849 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59671 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:93687 In article <201507111448.t6BEmH6Z025227@fido.openend.se>, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Sat, 11 Jul 2015 13:56:09 +0200, Christian Gollwitzer writes: > >Am 11.07.15 um 13:27 schrieb Laura Creighton: > >> Also, if you need your app to work with MacOS, be warned that you > >> will need an older version of tk than the most recent one. > >> This information is current: https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/ > >> Don't use 8.6 > >I'm not sure how recent this really is. Kevin Walzer has done a lot of > >work to get recent Tcl/Tk (i.e. 8.6) running on OSX. The most recent > >ActiveTcl release is 8.6.4.1. I'm using exclusively Tk 8.6 on the Mac > >without problems. > Unless I was misinformed 2 weeks or so ago when I asked, that is the > problem. Tcl/Tk 8.6 works (and is shipped with) OSX, but tkinter > and idle don't work with it. We will see what Ned Deily says > when he gets around to reading this. Apple still does not ship 8.6 with OS X, only 8.5 (as of OS X 10.6) and, for backwards compatibility, 8.4. That's why the python.org Python installers for OS X do not yet use 8.6. ActiveState does provide an OS X installer for Tcl/Tk 8.6 but it is not open source; assuming your use is compatible with their (liberal) license, you can build your own Python linking with it. Also, some third-party package managers for OS X supply a Python linked with their own Tcl/Tk 8.6, e.g. MacPorts. We haven't wanted to get into the business of building and shipping our own Tcl/Tk for python.org OS X installers but, because of Apple's recent poor support for Tcl/Tk, we more or less need to; it's on the list of future enhancements. -- Ned Deily, nad@acm.org