Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 06:50:51 +1000 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <93639142-6b82-4b8a-8bd0-7f4593e1f692@googlegroups.com> <5716595b$0$1585$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3d95437c-6427-46d2-8e9f-470f121194cd@googlegroups.com> <854maxqq50.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de zO2DVtBK1ZSBVedOSAwkLgm5k0ks5BKzYWFpHg0m7gkg== Cancel-Lock: sha1:xMkxxKW8UDGQrLOI7WPSU7Atsps= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'false.': 0.07; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'example:': 0.10; '2016': 0.16; 'claim,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'all,': 0.20; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'linux': 0.26; 'rest': 0.26; 'supported': 0.27; 'moved': 0.27; 'actual': 0.28; 'concern': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'programmers': 0.30; 'generally': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'behind': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'primarily': 0.35; 'text.': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'supports': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'sure': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; "didn't": 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'claim': 0.61; 'engine': 0.62; 'programs': 0.62; 'providing': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'world': 0.64; 'believe': 0.66; '_o__)': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'superhuman': 0.84; 'utc+5:30,': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cthe': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <854maxqq50.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <93639142-6b82-4b8a-8bd0-7f4593e1f692@googlegroups.com> <5716595b$0$1585$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3d95437c-6427-46d2-8e9f-470f121194cd@googlegroups.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107364 Rustom Mody writes: > On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 9:44:39 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 01:04 pm, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > > > And more generally that programmers sticking to text when rest of world > > > has moved on is rather backward: > > > > I'm pretty sure that the rest of the world has not moved on from text. > > Run your popular search engine on "popular linux apps" or some such and > you will get for example: That supports a claim of “there are many programs available that primarily manipulate something other than text”. You didn't make that claim, so providing support for that is irrelevant. Your actual claim is that “the rest of the world has moved on from text”. You haven't supported that claim at all, and I see endless text everyday in “the rest of the world”. So your claim is false. -- \ “I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I | `\ consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no | _o__) superhuman authority behind it.” —Albert Einstein, letter, 1953 | Ben Finney