Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Bernardo Sulzbach Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 12:48:19 -0200 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5695fd0e$0$11119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <0529e7d6-0de1-4e38-9a19-2b5ed1ecc39f@googlegroups.com> <5696e77e$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> <36c2dbd5-e8e4-4e56-8c4e-ffb2da51875f@googlegroups.com> <46334134-1fd1-493a-9c8a-6f14956cf60a@googlegroups.com> <18bmy.95549$X%2.42835@fx45.am4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Ly1Cm2Ls9I2IgKnbehvoJwHOUmf1y/1WK1PQTbf817FA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.089 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'jan': 0.11; '2016': 0.16; 'files)': 0.16; 'incomplete': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:writing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'suppose': 0.22; 'sat,': 0.23; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; 'example': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'initially': 0.30; 'received:209.85.215.46': 0.30; 'extend': 0.31; 'file': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'beginning': 0.36; 'development.': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'version': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'means': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'space': 0.40; 'company': 0.60; 'caused': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'developed': 0.66; 'today.': 0.67; 'operated': 0.72; 'bernardo': 0.84; 'embrace': 0.84; 'fat': 0.84; 'fro': 0.84; 'negotiations': 0.84; 'subject:Stop': 0.84; 'technique': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Mubvs4/i9uawo7Oh4UIOFQVe63VMSV6A8o1qq6gbKZ0=; b=k9PTBkRNxCP9e2pSotK1kkFdx82MahSVKtsF8e5VNNPSVUHoTrM85XxPaSgJbHMHAU qSAQG/5bm0vgyYzUa+BS+/FuGe8bUHh0QbOpsTOswlJIq5iHwBfaX8kyI0BWBclZMw2l iXFSmUfQF3ZrR7FhyGvMNAVRXcvWsQNrCtFbt6qjUoyf0BMYNHcs/mK6PXoYdCrp0yUu QbAkZaaal1UnAmCXzCYyk3CJavyW+cUFXEFdX+A7+KRGY6xdHsQ7NowG4qjkBGcL+bTy 705XJZR69jiHtFKYZkpVL/EWrzKTVlmkmoM3uS48HyQneMV88Yr/yY64X6XJLm5b4E5U atDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Mubvs4/i9uawo7Oh4UIOFQVe63VMSV6A8o1qq6gbKZ0=; b=jS59K3Q+32r56yKsNIDBSRuOOuguNewJznpT/eHgwtAACHKGYwjJ9gmzmJJ/WSf+yh ZnvzvAk3e5kFO+ifmra346babSKf1QWGTKwmI2Rk0viNHGIe1CrF5uof3pfowEnS9gHF NMBYiIR131uBWWlA4GAQRYtAvLmcFHPjYHV27HhfLDtd/9QvQAv9FdlAyLcEUB3JW/Fy QzVyQWVqi4qnOgG9HlBaJw9ZiCdOtioD4sNblvAk3pqiji0TiK7XdKgs9dEXhDZNT1X9 dYF/BDygh8sHMOfhQnGui/IrJvagjOyaNXb36jKisiPtxI4jeLrLafik3PXyypDMevpC 9XjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk/808eZ8VCCjTP/mGRtzZS8j4TZPF5eW5SfUJmICsDobdfmSOPGilaVhNjyl0M3hlUBrcobiolnkEmViz6ooKUifIAHg== X-Received: by 10.25.26.68 with SMTP id a65mr5268112lfa.24.1452955739362; Sat, 16 Jan 2016 06:48:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101811 On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Alister wrote: > it was exactly the scenario described > > A company had developed a means of impo=roving the Fat file system (IIRC by > using a pseudo file system on top to eliminate the wasted space caused by > incomplete blocks & the end of files) > > Microsoft engaged in negotiations to include the technique in MSDOS > the pulled out at the last minute (after obtaining all the technical > details) & introduced their own version which operated almost identically. > > heck PCDos was initially written by a 3rd party who was ripped of by > Microsoft. > > Microsoft are the goto example fro the three 'E' approach to development. > > Embrace > Extend > Extinguish Did people know this back then or it just surfaced years later? I suppose that at the beginning MS was more "vulnerable" than it is today. -- Bernardo Sulzbach