Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:16:13 -0700 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <3883651.fOIMIIEhYO@PointedEars.de> <2062582.Z8LLNUJk5W@PointedEars.de> <85oadj1pta.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de YS0/Oc2+m6Gq4bM3ha/OSg2Ht8F79AAaTKaGPRJNzdIg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'messages.': 0.04; '21,': 0.07; 'subject:error': 0.11; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'discuss.': 0.16; 'gmail.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'threading': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; 'explicit': 0.22; 'dec': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'correct': 0.28; 'specifically': 0.28; 'error.': 0.31; 'regardless': 0.31; "can't": 0.32; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'list,': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'field': 0.60; 'overload': 0.66; "they're": 0.66; 'subject': 0.70; 'subject:status': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'relating': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=TuBS4CUUtYz9znO2l/h3u8ae6kUjx62UWiPknjheWws=; b=Lbz8ukXdoJsptxMUS5PCv7EMUW14oo12QNwii8cOXvgRypepRv53UD0GjOzfV77EaH CTlXCshnn96yjjOcSkuuZ2dTGJCmyTNOQmPfIrB42nrb2T4wTFa+1ZE9fBN3Hzzhh4E5 wbGZchZ9z9c6MHVXgc8GOtvthyY5l8at+vC+f/u/IiSaRqSj6jcMjjWL5e5RUcQBNDu0 I2Sxqqu2Kxqmxe7OUCthFTLy7Hp2qqjpOeZoUkJTDapS+KL0R9s/gJJPTpycIYeuB/wY aMrESU8MK89aq+vJMMX19iOEPG6pClmdKqc9qHqdC6vcFQvg1ZqwzljNB/LGlPAJ//mx E6+Q== X-Received: by 10.50.154.5 with SMTP id vk5mr20776563igb.85.1450732613014; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:16:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <85oadj1pta.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:100697 On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Ian Kelly writes: >> This isn't just a Usenet group; it's also a mailing list, and many >> MUAs rely on the Subject header for proper threading. > > If such MUAs do that, they're misinterpreting the Subject field. Other > fields are available with the explicit meaning of relating messages to > each other regardless of what they discuss. > > If the correct fields are being mangled, then the correct place to apply > pressure is on those who can fix that error. Let's not overload the > Subject field to make up the lack. It might just be Gmail. http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/965/how-does-gmail-decide-to-thread-email-messages I can't specifically recall if I've used any MUA other than Gmail that even attempts threading email messages.