Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'builtin': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'cases)': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'pathological': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'not,': 0.20; 'thanks.': 0.20; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.23; '"you': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'agreed.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'possible.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'simply': 0.61; 'direct': 0.67; 'subjectcharset:utf-8': 0.72; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'subject::': 0.85 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Type of an object: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98obj=2E=5F=5Fclass=5F=5F?= =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=99?= versus =?utf-8?B?4oCYdHlwZShvYmop4oCZ?= Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:50:17 +1100 References: <7wk3f5k1gm.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rasputin.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0QJHYWRBuaFi6sCwlBCacxYJ5E8= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1387169433 news.xs4all.nl 2908 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41368 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61997 Ned Batchelder writes: > Generally, my answer would be, "You probably don't need the type as > much as you think you do." > […] > Also, don't overlook isinstance(). Agreed. > But when you do need it, type(x) is better than x.__class__, simply > because we should always favor builtin functions over direct access of > dunder-names where possible. Thanks. Should we expect (ignoring pathological cases) the assertion ‘type(obj) is obj.__class__’ to hold true? If not, under what circumstances would it be sensible for those to differ? -- \ “For fast acting relief, try slowing down.” —Jane Wagner, via | `\ Lily Tomlin | _o__) | Ben Finney