Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'root': 0.05; 'cure': 0.07; 'seemed': 0.09; 'subject:extra': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'random': 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; "he'd": 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'undo': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'server.': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'leave': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'statement': 0.30; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'raised': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'says': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'common': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'right?': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'removing': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'complete': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'face': 0.64; 'customers': 0.66; 'managing': 0.66; 'cold': 0.69; 'jul': 0.74; "customers'": 0.84; 'late,': 0.84; 'subject:space': 0.84; 'doctor': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fZ2EuhauIBjRKU7GWyKWtE35OYdPjyZYixeMqCRG24E=; b=jooZbNojDpWY4/fdClLya0iy0gdgbpJVNJa8uFSGU0VSMvPf5ik2Kp/mmSZWdkLsel ry16yYeUGqhTgOBi3RmGqyzFF2hVCe0Fu2HAYgZKugLXrJgYvJ3Wb1WXzJgdX/C5sCR4 jmHSB6gavcAp5yiOY4T+BPE90HwJ3vOIE8VQeNHz2DaTZEouMOvNbEe34jrT5WM4f1Ap L7jWQSyBjlmpBlF6S2G6OQggVB5J1eEyiwtVjXAHBAWF/rLBZLoi3ssf8Srm5ifaUjoB oc4PkRIq3DE2b/7b6+Uz3NT/GxUfHT2UUh9p0uezrT/eUVxVNIGnykMNLSoqLpozTxUY 8EBQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.214.105 with SMTP id nz9mr368269vec.58.1372862675581; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 07:44:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51d17954$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d1a173$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51D1D484.5070309@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D27FB9.7040406@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D2C113.6070105@rece.vub.ac.be> <1264cfb9-f451-40e3-9d59-0619547c8138@googlegroups.com> <51D3ED24.9030202@rece.vub.ac.be> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 00:44:35 +1000 Subject: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372862677 news.xs4all.nl 15976 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57070 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49745 On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:00 PM, =CD=DF=EA=EF=F2 wrote: > =D3=F4=E9=F2 3/7/2013 12:45 =EC=EC, =EF/=E7 Chris Angelico =DD=E3=F1=E1= =F8=E5: > >>> ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. >>> >>> Which seemed to be accepted on this list without a problem. >> >> >> If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root >> password to one of our servers, I would say to his face that he had >> betrayed his (our) customers' trust. I would say it with strong >> emphasis and a raised tone, too, and no small heat. The words you >> quote above are perfectly factual and, in my opinion, business-like >> language. > > > I just received a call form on of my customers asking me to explain your > mail and i did tell him the complete truth. > > He was surprised by what i did my hopefully he will not leave from my > server. I'd like to have been cc'd in on that conversation; if indeed you gave him the complete truth, then there's nothing to hide, right? > any way all is well now. Until you retract your statement that you would happily give out root access again to some other random person across the internet, all is NOT well. Calling you incompetent at managing a server is like calling a doctor incompetent for surgically removing your throat to cure a common cold. It's too late, at that point, to undo what's happened, but if that same doctor still says he'd do the same again to cure another cold in another patient, I think most of us would look for another doctor. People deciding to stay with that doctor is NOT "all is well". ChrisA