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wrote: >>> >>> Sure your method follows the the logic in a straighforward way >>>> step-by-step but i just dont want to spent almost 20 lines of code jus= t >>>> to calculate 2 variables(city and host). >>>> >>> >>> Does your provider charge you per line of code? >>> >>> If all that matters is the number of lines of code then use this: >>> >>> city,host =3D 0,0 >>> >>> Only _1_ nice short line of code. >>> >>> Happy? >>> >>> >> Well to tell the truth no matter what you say to me if something can be >> written in less lines than another implementation but still retain its >> simplicity and straightforward logic behind it i would prefer it! >> I don't know why you think otherwise, especially people who are used to >> write Perl code(me being one of them) would agree with me! >> > > The problem is, as it stands you seem to make it a priority to write > compact code over correct code, wasting everybody's time. > > If you hadn't been insisting on trying to reduce the number of lines > of the various given proposals, you might already have a working > solution and be working on something else. > > As it is all your attempts to reduce the number of lines while retaining > its simplicity and straightforward logic behind it have only resulted in > you producing code that didn't work. > > People like you who judge code in one language by how much it resembles > code in an other language are like people who used to work with glue but > need to work with hammer and nails for some reason and are surprised > they just can't subtituted nails for glue and fail to see they may have > to rethink the design. So they just keep trying glue solutions with > nails and every nail solution that is offered by people who have > experience with nails, they will adapt until it looks like it could be > a glue solution. In the mean time all these glue solutions fail and > much time is wasted. > > > -- > Antoon Pardon > > -- > https://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list > Its funny how the guy who wants the one line of code has the longest threads that meander endlessly in the mailing list. He's a write only machine -- don't think he reads or understands or has any interest in understanding what people here explain to him. This whole goofy exercise is to try to figure out where the visitor to the website come from -- the geo ip stuff, etc. Now back last month there was another endless thread where is was pointed out that you can't really be sure where someone is reading from. Next we'll get more questions about how to screw up unicode, and how to write code that deals with apache and linux shell with the caveat that the OP has no interesting in learning how those things work. He just wants the one line. Troll is maybe too respectable a label to put on this guy. --=20 Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com --047d7bd7623ec6ff2404e773eabf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Antoon Pardon &l= t;antoon.= pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
Op 28-09-13 00:06, =CE=9D=CE=AF=CE=BA=CE=BF= =CF=82 schreef:

=CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 27/9/2013 8:00 =CE=BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7 Grant E= dwards =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
On 2013-09-27, ?????????? <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote:

Sure your method follows the the logic in a straighforward way
step-by-step but i just dont want to spent almost 20 lines of code just
to calculate 2 variables(city and host).

Does your provider charge you per line of code?

If all that matters is the number of lines of code then use this:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0city,host =3D 0,0

Only _1_ nice short line of code.

Happy?


Well to tell the truth no matter what you say to me if something can be
written in less lines than another implementation but still retain its
simplicity and straightforward logic behind it i would prefer it!
I don't know why you think otherwise, especially people who are used to=
write Perl code(me being one of them) would agree with me!

The problem is, as it stands you seem to make it a priority to write
compact code over correct code, wasting everybody's time.

If you hadn't been insisting on trying to reduce the number of lines of the various given proposals, you might already have a working
solution and be working on something else.

As it is all your attempts to reduce the number of lines while retaining its simplicity and straightforward logic behind it have only resulted in you producing code that didn't work.

People like you who judge code in one language by how much it resembles
code in an other language are like people who used to work with glue but need to work with hammer and nails for some reason and are surprised
they just can't subtituted nails for glue and fail to see they may have=
to rethink the design. So they just keep trying glue solutions with
nails and every nail solution that is offered by people who have
experience with nails, they will adapt until it looks like it could be
a glue solution. In the mean time all these glue solutions fail and
much time is wasted.


--
Antoon Pardon

--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Its fun= ny how the guy who wants the one line of code has the longest threads that = meander endlessly in the mailing list.=C2=A0 He's a write only machine = -- don't think he reads or understands or has any interest in understan= ding what people here explain to him.=C2=A0 This whole goofy exercise is to= try to figure out where the visitor to the website come from -- the geo ip= stuff, etc.=C2=A0 Now back last month there was another endless thread whe= re is was pointed out that you can't really be sure where someone is re= ading from.

Next we'll get more questions abou= t how to screw up unicode, and how to write code that deals with apache and= linux shell with the caveat that the OP has no interesting in learning how= those things work.=C2=A0 He just wants the one=C2=A0 line.

Troll is maybe too respectable a label= to put on this guy.

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