Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.071 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'argument': 0.05; 'parameter': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'windows': 0.15; '"file': 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'golden': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'slightly': 0.19; 'command': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '----------': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'appear': 0.29; 'correct': 0.29; 'tim': 0.29; 'dos': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'comments': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'this.': 0.32; 'guess': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'application': 0.37; 'too': 0.37; 'window': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'name': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'biggest': 0.67; 'wear': 0.68; 'lack': 0.78; 'boxes.': 0.84; 'differently:': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'subject:tell': 0.84; 'utilities,': 0.84; 'weather': 0.84; 'opens': 0.91 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:50:46 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: DOS or not? [was Re: How to tell Script to use pythonw.exe ?] In-Reply-To: <51D3E5F9.6010008@timgolden.me.uk> References: <51D37F8A.3010905@gmail.com> <51D3D415.5060802@timgolden.me.uk> <51D3E091.6020706@gmail.com> <51D3E5F9.6010008@timgolden.me.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: none X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372855746 news.xs4all.nl 16000 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49622 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49726 On 2013-07-03 09:51, Tim Golden wrote: > We can certainly agree on this. I can't count the number of emails > I've deleted as too hot-headed in response to dismissive comments > about Windows as a platform. Some of them, at least, appear to be > from people who last actually used Windows back in the 9x days when > the command window was very limited indeed. I guess one of my biggest frustrations with the cmd.exe (and command.com) interpreters is that argument processing is left to the application, so each application may do it slightly differently: C:\temp\> find weather *.py FIND: Parameter format not correct C:\temp\> find "weather" *.py ---------- WFD.PY weather = Weather(lat, lon) C:\temp\> findstr weather *.py wfd.py: weather = Weather(lat, lon) C:\temp\> findstr "weather" *.py wfd.py: weather = Weather(lat, lon) And more maddeningly: C:\temp\> start file.txt ... opens the file correctly in Notepad C:\temp\> start "file with space.txt" ... opens a new dos box with the name "file with space.txt" rather than opening the file C:\temp\> start "" "file with space.txt" ... opens the file correctly in Notepad It's the little inconsistencies like this that wear daily on me. That and the lack of built-in utilities, so I'm regularly adding GNU tools on new boxes. -tkc