Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'cpython': 0.05; 'so?': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python"': 0.07; 'eclipse': 0.09; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.13; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.13; 'impractical': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'pydev': 0.16; 'workstations': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'reason,': 0.18; 'java,': 0.19; 'java': 0.21; 'trying': 0.21; 'commit': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'versions': 0.23; 'obviously': 0.25; 'windows': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'depends': 0.28; 'anyway.': 0.29; 'problem': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'os,': 0.30; 'pretty': 0.32; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.33; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'match': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'richard': 0.34; 'issue': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'operating': 0.35; 'unless': 0.35; 'bigger': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'problems': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'using': 0.38; 'spent': 0.38; 'stable': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'useful': 0.38; 'getting': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'management': 0.60; 'once': 0.60; 'more': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'serious': 0.78; 'schools': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3Rr/BurwR7wz90Zy25547P65oKJcIeUpb/NHCnux9Mk=; b=UKBqzmxpxMtRTETkaXc/OP8WblNX4FhqcpgxiCtYNW+PRvGXHe/ICjy9Ebhn8xc510 rJMMxmbpa9/BjdkcdyU1MQdclVR9PZQHazjbEUvuJF9E7HhUP7RjYHqVyuSr26fb10CB myYISb5PPEd7FFCZe8AbUJEURhWQ8aYqYmdPY= Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:57:41 -0600 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111220 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comp.lang.python" Subject: Re: Python education survey References: <06423dd7-4fbb-4e7a-b529-e697ea862b05@f11g2000yql.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1325026676 news.xs4all.nl 6875 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46745 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18071 On 12/27/2011 4:04 PM, K Richard Pixley wrote: > You still need to match versions of PyDev to versions of Eclipse to > versions of operating system to versions of other eclipse plugins. I > spent a few days trying to get it together once and came to the > conclusion that it was a much bigger effort than I was willing to commit to. This is more of a package management issue than an Eclipse one. I had no problems getting the very latest stable versions of everything on Windows. I'm pretty sure most schools will be using Windows for workstations anyway. In any case, if Eclipse is impractical for whatever reason, obviously it would be wise to try something else. >>> You could create your own distribution of eclipse, but >>> then you have that "only useful for python" problem again. >> AFAIK, Eclipse should always be good for Java unless you do some serious >> hacking. > > Depends on which versions of eclipse, java, os, other plugins, etc. How so? AFAIK, Eclipse is almost (if not completely) unusable without Java. -- CPython 3.2.2 | Windows NT 6.1.7601.17640