Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.052 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'root': 0.05; 'say,': 0.05; 'seemed': 0.09; 'subject:extra': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'random': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'wording': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '(or': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'words': 0.29; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'raised': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'much.': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'negative': 0.60; 'course': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'email addr:yahoo.com': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'face': 0.64; 'consequences': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; 'yourself': 0.78; "customers'": 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'remarks': 0.84; 'subject:space': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GtXiaOFRhUniWoRN6o37RSP6IZe2eiUf4Dzp7R8WtUA=; b=wQw++9/72RfLRh6mtAI+AzxC1ELk2VItgUfbdLiaDTmaDB8yTGCPsS2o3pVtv27dT8 UxXfsCz2CrNV64rJWAIybjzfovBH7r/Eyjlp1w8niLI4FPSMqDjlP4b3+rZFY0kEEWAf uwuiZv4iT8bV5hAWjHLIsxsDtQb1rsTmeDs4z8HJMyVGAGL0zKAIIVm6TTDPw873f8Yz tp797sXdBznVhjnLtMTBjahXTP+uJbFLqf8HoJ4O9LYmNCJmd8+a+h7QifHXOaoNrfud +zjEIV8J4riKDEbfmzW/l6ytNhAgCPo4h0BQfAkNinqVxJ+MxkoV2KTuh7fRXHO4SkLU 3f3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.16.105 with SMTP id f9mr26960vdd.28.1372844716162; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:45:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51D3ED24.9030202@rece.vub.ac.be> References: <51d17954$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d1a173$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51D1D484.5070309@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D27FB9.7040406@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D2C113.6070105@rece.vub.ac.be> <1264cfb9-f451-40e3-9d59-0619547c8138@googlegroups.com> <51D3ED24.9030202@rece.vub.ac.be> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 19:45:15 +1000 Subject: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372844725 news.xs4all.nl 15911 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58842 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49714 On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 03-07-13 02:30, rurpy@yahoo.com schreef: >> If your going to point out something negative about someone >> then do so politely. Ask yourself if you were pointing out >> incompetence to your boss (or anyone else where impoliteness >> could have real consequences for you) if you would say, >> "you're incompetent." > > And so we shift from no problem speaking bluntly or clearly > to wording it in a way that wouldn't antagonize your boss > too much. > > Off course that would also mean throwing out remarks like: > > ] You have betrayed the trust of all your customers. > > Which seemed to be accepted on this list without a problem. If my boss gave a random stranger from a mailing list the root password to one of our servers, I would say to his face that he had betrayed his (our) customers' trust. I would say it with strong emphasis and a raised tone, too, and no small heat. The words you quote above are perfectly factual and, in my opinion, business-like language. ChrisA