Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'true,': 0.05; 'x86': 0.07; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '(also': 0.16; 'command.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'golden': 0.16; 'usage,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'slightly': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'command': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'versions': 0.24; 'mention': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tim': 0.29; 'andrew': 0.30; 'dos': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'lists': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'virtual': 0.37; 'window': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'though,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'term': 0.63; 'refer': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'jul': 0.74; 'unusual': 0.74; 'other.': 0.75; 'hood': 0.84; 'much,': 0.84; 'quicker': 0.84; 'subject:tell': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UB+aG86cl5wMlH1gnHQ6GZ7QAvVwrUoeQDhx21a8yJU=; b=TDOZM0UV/QHrbID8N1fFr2zepmqCgsPbwsyEHbuOa6H1DrfQXEh0+O3TP9jZQFrAX5 oD8IIAdAnP9xaTzPANV3NBpjEELkGJQBe5NMRiNv77JqxE6/ywbR/42dOFNtezqY45D2 +URh/8bY1neNZ/tctEy9jcwXXR0aII1BJWAyw5jPTqHy9kdSMANT3PXqtvEHbwL+BPVh lFDzNsOgnyjN2NKfV5id9CJ6EN2tHkIae5+k6lYfQxgujMQRvmZoMpp0WKO+wKXwkPZX w81/86QS06l9G7uH6NZle0n8vS4irgy/aSpjfp2U+qM9iaYkdDxdxlX9YN+T68c7MZtn 0XvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.249.236 with SMTP id yx12mr12617826vec.25.1372837268703; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:41:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51D3D415.5060802@timgolden.me.uk> References: <51D37F8A.3010905@gmail.com> <51D3D415.5060802@timgolden.me.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 17:41:08 +1000 Subject: Re: DOS or not? [was Re: How to tell Script to use pythonw.exe ?] From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372837277 news.xs4all.nl 15991 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37132 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49709 On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Tim Golden wrote: > On 03/07/2013 02:34, Andrew Berg wrote: >> DOS is long >> dead, and is much, much different under the hood from the console >> subsystem in modern versions of Windows. > > > While this is clearly true, it's by no means unusual for people to refer > to the "DOS Box" or talk about "DOS commands" etc. even when they're > quite well aware of the history of Windows and its Console subsystem. > It's just quicker than saying "Console Window" or something. > > I mention this because it seems to get called out every time someone > uses the term "DOS" on this and other Python lists and it can smack > slightly of pedantry. I would avoid the term "DOS Box" in reference to cmd.exe though, because DOSBox is an emulator. (Also because I have an OS/2 heritage, where a DOS Window is command.com in a virtual x86 windowed session, while an OS/2 Window is the native OS/2 command interpreter.) But in general usage, calling them "DOS commands" is sloppy but unambiguous. I wouldn't be concerned one way or the other. ChrisA