Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; '"this': 0.03; 'beginner': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'language,': 0.12; 'assume': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'subject:reports': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code,': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'actual': 0.34; 'hundreds': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:]': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'expect': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'gone': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'july': 0.63; 'two-': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=U0MexJOBhqlMzchy82Jgm0QoUCOMUpD1Ns3sd8UPsc0=; b=PXadKQYJGYpnYLqhgV83ayeX+bF072CKO5tOwjstowQAptJk4zkUFYx1clI+0i2ATw REvrdPFII07mAVh6MAf7S+sXz77BWVDNGbyRe/PhqZkCLAgxJOcgX+vTNmO7GSGA09KD 3tBiFdoMglk5jO7OPsAKOMAWKIJnQgTO4huKu49j7rtmFc7V3prSWhmXoBH4+FKIqt6K Y+Jd2ZtQ4qdYWtiOWnj5zZJcs5esV79JoAYaA1TNhgf7w22xVRP2NCnMN4yQo1Oc396e 66P/Vo6CZKrU6h6uPTtuS+KyV2UIXFm5+moPiOZZhczE4vwF/aKFN+vPqlW1oJGYI7rK qsYA== X-Received: by 10.224.148.5 with SMTP id n5mr500480qav.71.1372813972194; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:12:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51d375de$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <51d375de$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Joshua Landau Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 02:12:12 +0100 Subject: Re: Bug reports [was Re: Python list code of conduct] To: "Steven D'Aprano" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372813980 news.xs4all.nl 15923 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38135 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49687 On 3 July 2013 01:52, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If you are a beginner to a programming language, assume that anything > that doesn't work the way you expect is a bug in YOUR code, or YOUR > understanding, not in the language. Not just beginners. Out of the hundreds of times where I've gone "this *can't* make sense", I think only one -maybe two- was an actual bug in Python.