Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'cpython': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python"': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'eclipse': 0.09; 'either.': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.13; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.13; 'class,': 0.15; 'highlighting': 0.16; 'iirc,': 0.16; 'installed,': 0.16; 'pydev': 0.16; 'software"': 0.16; 'version)': 0.16; 'wizard,': 0.16; 'syntax': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'java': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'assumes': 0.23; 'specify': 0.24; 'windows': 0.26; 'needed,': 0.28; 'problem': 0.29; 'received:192.168.1.3': 0.30; '(e.g.': 0.31; "isn't": 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'that,': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'it.': 0.34; 'richard': 0.34; 'setting': 0.34; 'languages.': 0.34; 'switch': 0.35; 'project': 0.35; 'install': 0.35; 'unless': 0.35; 'but': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'options': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'some': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'couple': 0.38; 'useful': 0.38; 'either': 0.39; 'should': 0.39; 'else': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'download': 0.60; 'more': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'serious': 0.78; 'ton': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=moh4J0OL/gbOzhQKCzwxD1Rx5E9lsB2XRepxXVgkatI=; b=YUqPNhGNA4Gj1aa/DR4Md3meKtUv+UvxDAtThc7swYmGkrtgT+PpN36tfy3vKMv6CE S7hvXkQyXyUs1WAnrJEWk3mlOLX7tDFEA2tGjZRBcIN2c2PNxOosJDAztq5+Ln0v2w/K c6pupQiQj3TGYaYHVfwddCoUYgT5Ky3L1D7Lw= Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:26:23 -0600 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111220 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comp.lang.python" Subject: Re: Python education survey References: <06423dd7-4fbb-4e7a-b529-e697ea862b05@f11g2000yql.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1325010399 news.xs4all.nl 6883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49503 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18040 On 12/27/2011 11:59 AM, K Richard Pixley wrote: > You'd do better to encourage eclipse, but setting that up isn't > trivial either. IIRC, all I had to do to set up PyDev was copy a URL to Eclipse's "Install New Software" wizard, and have Eclipse download and install it. Extra steps are needed if a different implementation of Python (e.g. Jython) is needed, but other than that, the user only needs to specify a couple options (e.g. Python grammar version) at project creation time. This assumes that Python is already installed, but why wouldn't it be? > You could create your own distribution of eclipse, but > then you have that "only useful for python" problem again. AFAIK, Eclipse should always be good for Java unless you do some serious hacking. > If students are going to go anywhere else after this class, they're > going to need to either be able to learn to switch editors or find an > editor they can use more generally. There are a ton of editors that have syntax highlighting and other little features for many languages. -- CPython 3.2.2 | Windows NT 6.1.7601.17640