Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'list?': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'nntp': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'spaces': 0.09; '>does': 0.16; 'be:': 0.16; 'markers,': 0.16; 'message- id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'ported': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'not,': 0.20; 'input': 0.22; 'gateway': 0.24; 'url:home': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'appear': 0.29; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; 'enforce': 0.31; 'moderate': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'approval': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'conduct': 0.36; 'doubt': 0.36; 'vice': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'traffic': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'news': 0.67; 'jul': 0.74; 'other.': 0.75; 'enforced': 0.84; 'shutdown': 0.84; 'simmons': 0.84; 'received:108': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Python list code of conduct Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:15:21 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-219-40.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372806931 news.xs4all.nl 15961 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50413 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49666 On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:51:38 +0100, Steve Simmons declaimed the following: >Erm, > >It probably isn't the best time to start this post but I was wondering... > >Does this list have a code of conduct or a netiqeutte (sp?) statement/requirement? > >If not, should it? > One problem you will run into is that this "list" happens to be: 1) a long established Usenet news group (comp.lang.python) 2) a long established mailing list (masked as a news group on Gmane) 3) something Google Groups makes available but trashes because GG thinks everything is web page, so it turns stuff into HTML paragraphs on input [based on EOL markers, which in proper NNTP would appear on each line], then double spaces those "paragraphs" when sending back out to Usenet. comp.lang.python and the mailing list are cross-linked -- traffic on one is reproduced on the other. So who would enforce any rules? I doubt it could be ported to a new (if approval could even be obtained) comp.lang.python.mod(erated) so nothing can be enforced on the comp.lang.python side; and what would you do with Google Groups? Shutdown the Usenet<>mailing list gateway and moderate the mailing list? In the process alienating all the comp.lang.python and GG users (or vice versa for the mailing list users). -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/