Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'anymore.': 0.09; 'moderation': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:pobox.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:skip': 0.16; 'gmane': 0.16; 'ignoring': 0.16; 'newsgroups': 0.16; 'think.': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'addition,': 0.20; 'not,': 0.20; 'manual': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'days,': 0.24; 'faq': 0.24; 'gateway': 0.24; 'skip': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; "i've": 0.25; 'posts': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'posting': 0.31; 'end,': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'not.': 0.33; 'common': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'conduct': 0.36; 'doubt': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'does': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'exposure': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'kept': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'effective.': 0.68; 'nobody': 0.68; 'reads': 0.68; 'forgotten': 0.91; 'heat': 0.91; 'light.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1jJmRWXkW1q/RJgO0BDeJ0koC8nfFBDAj+W0DG8ac0c=; b=I3R+RtaZV8FavoX8bvoNhttAPH24+OdrmCgxGy0cheBGClbUuJTDcOEgWhZ1xAo/wP 49Onmtu8Cx0Dq/2jz0cwI2/8ZATHsaFuvQNUHGfncfHXQHoSNMA6Yks5+jTCLSYKzKbQ Ym1JiVsvZ2yN/qVTjcv0jjiH1MOqDCNf4AlNQ2VlgSJP7kVxVv325WzefvImRx7neDev +4orZkGGMiulI6lh8rWH6vVIrjUmV0CmoikB4g1c4012d0AWLrFqM25/WB14XQAY2WXQ 7Iwy9OtyBrDihOpJr+0T4mtKiRJrE93Q+KmvPKRaUf7UWy8KUWemaNynd6w3PV2zXXHd cr5g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.118.74 with SMTP id kk10mr23008396igb.2.1372797222899; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: skip.montanaro@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:33:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8FIcMoKXKbsX9Bkn-0rdtCn8OyM Subject: Re: Python list code of conduct From: Skip Montanaro To: Steve Simmons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372797226 news.xs4all.nl 15947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54024 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49654 > Does this list have a code of conduct or a netiqeutte (sp?) statement/requirement? > > If not, should it? No, and probably not. As Joshua Landau indicated, nobody reads the user manual anyway. In addition, this mailing list is not currently moderated in an approve-each-message sort of way (and I doubt anyone wants to take on that task). The gateway with comp.lang.python makes things somewhat worse I would think. I've forgotten how Usenet works for moderation (far too many dead neurons ago), but I doubt it would be all that effective. ISTR moderation is done using a simple header which can be faked. If someone annoys you to no end, I think your best recourse is to ignore their posts or ignore threads which seem to generate more heat than light. In the old Usenet days, periodic (monthly?) posting of FAQs was common in many newsgroups. Ignoring fake newsgroups like the stuff that Google Groups and Gmane create, this mailing list is my only exposure to Usenet. I have no idea if periodic FAQ posting is common practice anymore. It might be worthwhile to create one if it's kept fairly brief and to the point. Skip