Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'one?': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'measure': 0.09; 'stealing': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.14; 'list)': 0.16; 'measures': 0.16; 'plan.': 0.16; 'somewhere.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'not,': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; '(the': 0.22; 'rules': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'said,': 0.30; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'membership': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'framework': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'agree': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'conduct': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'members.': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'presently': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'authority': 0.60; 'solve': 0.60; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'discuss': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'choose': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'importantly,': 0.68; 'simmons': 0.84; 'enthusiasts': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=fjV3WK/+ad+wkPoRT4WL4EKCNiZMpFPvDcgl6q1kPiY=; b=hTzJHgq1Kv2DoFvGOsiZFS2Y2vLIfEoP3DRslXFO9kFPJwTkFc8LTKyTtEuoUDr2Ii rkbs+4jKwBTU6kX7DPbn94M2cPJMz4CkzvsSdKySbJorb7eZ6qiyz9/DNpwD9I482rTV NHhSf6K65TRrzfSkCGuI2BufmJkAGqY0hecOVX/O1PkdgxRMavHsiJ7DFYYiLPzKkllC TYQki2pocVNxXq0pG/4IVXZHTLKmxO4evkfddLNbEexgZMeTYDeXI3Q1EZ9o0Ma2Rt+U ZTwl/nguODsiklXsVmtYhjVC3B5sCxpYTQbc4vI1RihWz8V7pw2lPyRVTz2fgrXOm81l UsNg== X-Received: by 10.112.5.199 with SMTP id u7mr14683480lbu.67.1372794574886; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Joshua Landau Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:48:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Python list code of conduct To: Steve Simmons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372794577 news.xs4all.nl 15899 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37445 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49649 On 2 July 2013 16:51, Steve Simmons wrote: > Erm, > > It probably isn't the best time to start this post but I was wondering... > > Does this list have a code of conduct or a netiqeutte (sp?) > statement/requirement? > > If not, should it? > > Is the membership of this list presently in the right frame of mind to > create one or update any existing one? > > The reason I ask is that it seems to me that if we (the current membership > of the list) could agree to a set of preferred/required behaviours we would > at least have a framework by which to measure unwelcome posts. And, more > importantly, to guide newcomers in understanding that we are enthusiasts who > choose to discuss Python and *voluntarily* help solve problems with Python > for the less experienced members. I don't know if we do and I'll support such measures (pending that they're done intelligently) but unfortunately there seem to be at least two problems with your plan. - There seems to be no authority for upholding such rules - Newbies never read around That said, the idea itself is well grounded. I'd suggest stealing the rules Python already has somewhere.