Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'rename': 0.07; 'tries': 0.07; 'badly': 0.09; 'exception,': 0.09; 'literal': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'stating': 0.09; 'subject:extra': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'whole,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'missed': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; '"well,': 0.16; '(when': 0.16; 'advantage.': 0.16; 'behave': 0.16; 'discussion.': 0.16; 'enough.': 0.16; 'incorrect': 0.16; 'intended.': 0.16; 'misrepresent': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'basically': 0.19; 'later': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'of.': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; 'shown': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'point': 0.28; 'leave': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'ease': 0.30; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; 'behaving': 0.31; 'fine,': 0.31; 'not.': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'definition': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'himself': 0.36; 'representing': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list.': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'represent': 0.38; 'list,': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'is.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'helps': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'making': 0.63; 'exchange': 0.63; 'name': 0.63; 'term': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'afraid': 0.65; 'talking': 0.65; 'nobody': 0.68; 'person,': 0.68; 'subject': 0.69; 'ambiguous': 0.84; 'clearly.': 0.84; 'much,': 0.84; 'noise': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'reminder,': 0.84; 'subject:space': 0.84; 'us?': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'silent': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hOArN+N6Pbesq5Yof/37a+LyR+8z0FDuZwcVSzUM3LM=; b=EbYjMD4be3bJeZOpQfKqc9Q2wUxFfP6B3UFDL0tbmECv1Vbvv+RCQYE+rwhJOhF+Yt Mp7fttkVZDTp/Khckg7H9Lph021Dd3IH9l77JCJuB9dBWoPlpiMqke6xWlzVuHg+KrT0 uQVa/+r0Qb/GgPaMjTD5DfPT+rMM1Qo1a4nERDEnULgmmHFq/0uE2X7CVEbALIt3NubV S8X9YUIVMxoNXE7C+pBgXBryRrxZLF8BBhC87VrTTpShBA14SaGCO/N6Gx0UGfwU8goh 3twZPk0XRUKZM5hNGwfGNEtSskzwXNno8x3/kKRRptdJT8i8JgxVa+3FWa3Zw6SLhXSq Nx5w== X-Received: by 10.229.184.71 with SMTP id cj7mr8455743qcb.60.1372757734325; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:35:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51D27FB9.7040406@rece.vub.ac.be> References: <51d17954$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d1a173$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51D1D484.5070309@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D27FB9.7040406@rece.vub.ac.be> From: Joshua Landau Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 10:34:54 +0100 Subject: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list To: Antoon Pardon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 61 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372757737 news.xs4all.nl 15940 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46412 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49630 On 2 July 2013 08:22, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 01-07-13 21:28, Joshua Landau schreef: > >> Well then you are wrong. But fine, I'll use your definition incorrect >> as it may be (when talking to you, please don't misrepresent my other >> posts). >> >> Nevertheless, these statements that we are talking about, that I shall >> now term "pseudo-insults", are unwanted and not called for. Please >> keep them off-list. > This doesn't make sense. This means that someone can behave like a jerk > on this list, later tries to spin his behaviour as some innocent exchange > of ideas and make it near impossible for others to make it clear what > bullshit he is peddling because stating clearly how much like a jerk he > > behaved would be insulting. This is giving those who are behaving badly > > a huge advantage. No it does not. I'd give you more of a counter but I actually have no idea how you came up with that. >>> Well nobody is representing the list. So where does that leave us? >> I am afraid you are wrong. The body of people of this list, as a >> whole, represent this list. As a whole, as I have shown, they resent >> your pseudo-insults. rusi is an exception, who only seems to resent >> Nikos's, but rusi has not fallen to pseudo-insults himself (herself?). > You have shown no such thing. You have shown some people who resent > my speaking clearly. I'd prefer you use my less ambiguous term "pseudo-insults". If you'd prefer, you can rename it. Using weasel-words helps nobody. I have no problem with you "speaking clearly" in a literal sense. I have a problem with your pseudo-insults. If you want to use "speaking clearly" to mean "pseudo-insult", you're going to have to point out that you're using words how they're not literally intended. > That doesn't mean much, those that resent > something are always making more noise than those who don't care or > would even prefer it that way. Only the people, no - person, making most noise is you. So you've sort-a countered your point. Sort of. But it's hard to counter a point that is basically just "well, despite the fact no-one supports my view there might be other silent people who do". > But for your ease of mind I'll make it clear I have no intention > of haunting Nikos or of keeping him the subject of discussion. > But should I stumble on a conversation in which his past behaviour > is framed as him being innocentltly asking questions, I will point > of what bullshit that is. Fair enough. If that's all you did in this thread, then I wouldn't care. But once again you seem to have missed the point that I and others keep reiterating: pseudo-insults have no place on this list. (If you need a reminder, pseudo-insults are just what other people term "insults". You can change the name if you see fit.)