Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.084 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'ben,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'slip': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'meant': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:skip:d 10': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'company': 0.60; 'access,': 0.60; 'course.': 0.60; 'everybody': 0.60; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'business': 0.70; 'power': 0.76; '<>*': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nqdtobDOc0D39PXwOPM6XTo+E4dbWMl/s7WwUQqisoY=; b=VrxRcuy55cjHSqAWzVwIXrrLVz61ktgpl+XA1bO/FkOV13pj2ZFzGcpFVP6KAG/1wE KJy24td9lG76cLqjEXkFCUaOdgcRaU7CasddorAcMQXxqqu9gHIx8SJpyF1j6eY+LyDH p5S0nJmLCK6xSwLzXSlImUgdBsMY4IWP0q10WY1weSnu0GaS9394GJihuwwRN1Hw1OuR V6RAKhes6K5D+VNtSA7lVkTGYZrz0pbMQtB+rwOPLiU6ScZ6yimc9v66OjEXoraWG0KH MvpEqExlBIiL8BlcdV+9CRwp4//1dxRAqFSoNggSMl8zNxK/PvUDHckduJ9Zyb0UGIc/ 8dEw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.88.134 with SMTP id a6mr11475097qam.73.1386999893420; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:44:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52a9972d$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> <7wbo0mlsgd.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <52a9972d$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 00:44:53 -0500 Subject: Re: The increasing disempowerment of the computer user From: David Hutto To: "Steven D'Aprano" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2bbbaf38b5f04ed78130d Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 82 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386999895 news.xs4all.nl 2914 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60601 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61884 --001a11c2bbbaf38b5f04ed78130d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Three word response...Conglomerate business intelligence. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano < steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:35:37 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Hmm, interesting Freudian slip there. I meant =93cloud computing=94, of > > course. That's where the computer owner pretends their service is alway= s > > available and easy to access, while having terms of service that give > > them unilateral power to kick you off with no warning, no explanation, > > no accountability, and no recourse. > > Now Ben, you know that's not true. Everybody has the only recourse that > matters: buy the company and make them do what you want them to do. How > hard could that possibly be? > > > > -- > Steven > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > --=20 Best Regards, David Hutto *CEO:* *http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com = * --001a11c2bbbaf38b5f04ed78130d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Three word response...Conglomerate business intelligence.<= br>


On T= hu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Steven D'Aprano <steve= +comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:35:37 +1100, Ben Finn= ey wrote:

> Hmm, interesting Freudian slip there. I meant =93cloud computing=94, o= f
> course. That's where the computer owner pretends their service is = always
> available and easy to access, while having terms of service that give<= br> > them unilateral power to kick you off with no warning, no explanation,=
> no accountability, and no recourse.

Now Ben, you know that's not true. Everybody has the only recourse that=
matters: buy the company and make them do what you want them to do. How
hard could that possibly be?



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Steven
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Best Rega= rds,
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