Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.026 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'third-party': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'basically': 0.19; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'quite': 0.32; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'module.': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'entire': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'latest': 0.67; 'mar': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'testers': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=jcxgVx560IQFV0xvQBuZGEmb0aeewyUqNy+H3C2JdJs=; b=rozMd6Az9nSn02icZYjaCB8hTU/4hOjhqsBLH/ZPSm65yIYczU6lnfUUe0fyCXDZe6 ZsLH2ZDxxcUO1PJfSwz9hvyZkY6edRRzKSPYr0fNe3DtKsTng2RxQMR6aOsAkRBmK08d LgXlCbwRe5veiIO05TfiqdR7vNImrT6Sk2SvlL7Kze83uTT57/60B2un3gsESkrt8MnI ruP5tO/Mp+OX8PZKgEkgC2dIllk1OEd7W5cda5wfVnQumgQGDPmdv6cMvefY+MM/5Vd1 lkU2lcvdi20qNT0w9x/gDO8y5SsetrP5X1GxWyrLlaT4wKjg7b8zONu3iOEIQ1uzEoIF Oomg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.160.212 with SMTP id j203mr106943274ioe.43.1426484385457; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:39:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <873855tts4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> References: <20150316025301.GA94576@cskk.homeip.net> <873855tts4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:39:45 +1100 Subject: Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426484388 news.xs4all.nl 2847 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47977 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87506 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Python 2 is by now pretty solid and its users don't feel like beta > testers any more. If you're saying using Python 3 by contrast means > "being first" and "reporting bugs", that basically translates to "stay > away from it except for experimentation". Ah but it isn't Py3 that's all about being first - it's the latest version of some third-party module. This entire discussion came about because of non-stdlib modules - Python itself is quite mature. You might be the first to use XYZ with Py3, but you're not the first to use XYZ, nor the first to use Py3. ChrisA