Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Considering migrating to Python from Visual Basic 6 for engineering applications Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 09:49:38 -0500 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <90cc50d2-1ce5-4588-9bfd-a49d439f00dd@googlegroups.com> <14c75a68-0d2e-45cc-8d73-0d71b6a6aea6@googlegroups.com> <9e57761f-26e1-41c5-8e71-23800de1fdd3@googlegroups.com> <7f9c473e-b0c2-4d77-91d1-d0733c93b12d@googlegroups.com> <23d8156f-1808-4395-9c04-27d2984fe67c@googlegroups.com> <56cae711$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de e7pPWkjYjvGraQJ/cqcD6gmr3IWE/oHFzq8+l4wjG2hg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'that?': 0.05; '22,': 0.09; 'expectation': 0.09; 'mode,': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'subject:Visual': 0.09; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; '1969': 0.16; '6th': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'recognizable': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'meant': 0.22; 'feb': 0.23; 'unix': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'command': 0.26; "skip:' 10": 0.28; 'card,': 0.29; 'unix,': 0.29; 'system,': 0.30; 'run': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'could': 0.35; 'replace': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'one,': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'subject:from': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'close': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'programs': 0.62; 'today,': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'developed': 0.66; 'hardly': 0.84; 'edition': 0.86 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=wIbD+H327wOk4G6savv7F7kfKPM=; b=cNU0G5 /KkRXt1SMQuV4AzjijsSfmhkkqRLrEH32Ek5uQor7ZjLA2IWVp8upWv46inw/ui8 ovvP0R7DX9qrXnBP1C9FAlPufefFzbQRSQCQCKN/drbmzOkboTju8EV5T54Inv7s pJaJlUia8I/ql3/TdSwEQkLcNnEqMLrbLlCX0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=wIbD+H327wOk4G6 savv7F7kfKPM=; b=r9wM353veBj93jfUeOR1bHaZRjV0nNwVUIp2hDQgrz+MnRk HoICmIk4TTeChR8GBr7lPQCvm6aPUm6cMdewbM0K1TSbi6rlaT/FgFfP2AsMJhOX cp+j4LjTEeQzr2LtxGI/T87XEdUtdDn/x/dOVNGTR7dKhTWQ50TyQ62lwQYg= X-Sasl-Enc: iiapvRwAw++is6gHeg9GI0rQSCEb37BIfI71ciCwuq32 1456152578 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-aeec9b65 In-Reply-To: <56cae711$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21rc2 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103342 On Mon, Feb 22, 2016, at 05:46, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Jussi, I think you have an inflated expectation of what was available in > 1976. Command line? What's that? Programs ran in batch mode, > and 'interactive' meant that you could easily slip out one punched card, > replace it with a different one, and run the program again. User experience was hardly uniform across different systems in that era. The book "Hackers", for example, describes an interactive computer that was used at MIT in *1959*. More relevantly to the lineage of the systems we use today, PDP-7 Unix was first developed in 1969 - and PDP-11 6th Edition Unix, very close to a recognizable modern system, was released in 1975.