Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.04; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'encoding': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'protocols.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'runtime': 0.09; 'sucks': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'buggy': 0.16; 'jumping': 0.16; 'permissive': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'side.': 0.16; 'smoothly,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'too?': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.20; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "aren't": 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; 'guys': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'related': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; '3.x': 0.31; 'crash': 0.31; 'parties,': 0.31; 'party.': 0.31; 'really,': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'doing': 0.36; 'feed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'wife': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'times': 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'mar': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'hands': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: [OT] Weaknesses of distro package managers - was Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:42:33 +0000 References: <55068cb0$0$12923$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8761a1gxhq.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <550710DD.3030405@gmail.com> <550B4ACD.90303@animats.com> <4ucoga98hk415m58luna10uuosb942it82@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-223-77.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <4ucoga98hk415m58luna10uuosb942it82@4ax.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426866173 news.xs4all.nl 2841 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51682 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87785 On 20/03/2015 14:59, Mario Figueiredo wrote: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 02:40:26 -0700 (PDT), wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Python 3.x is excellent. >> Probably, the best language to show a >> poor and buggy Unicode implementation >> (Character Encoding Model). >> >> When I think other computer languages or >> Unicode related tools are all doing wrong. >> That's terrible. >> > > Ah. So you are on the Python 3 unicode support sucks bandwagon too? > > Bet you guys have a whole lot of fun there. Rave parties, trashing, > getting mad at something. Sounds fun. > > Over here, on the Python 3 unicode support is just fine bandwagon, we > aren't so lucky. Things are just going smoothly, so they don't let us > party. We spend most of our time writting applications that don't > crash at runtime on the user hands because Python 3 is not permissive > and does force us to write well-formed encoding protocols. > > Many times I though jumping to your side. Like I said, it sounds more > fun. But really, wife and kids need to eat. > Please don't feed the RUE. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence