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On 12/13/2013 11:15 AM, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> Le jeudi 12 d=C3=A9cembre 2013 18:55:15 UTC+1, Terry Reedy a =C3=A9crit=
 :

>> If you mean cp65xxx (I forget exact numbers), MS Command Prompt fails,=

>> not Python. One should not use any other code page, but only other cod=
e
>> pages work.

> Please, do not exaggerate too much.

I try not to, so in case I mis-remembered, I tried your experiment.

 >> echo "=E1=88=B4=C3=A9=E2=82=AC=E3=91=96=D0=83=E2=8C=B4*"
 > works.

I cut the mixed alphabet input line and pasted into a *fresh* Command=20
Prompt window on my USA Win 7 machine with all updates.

C:\Users\Terry>echo "?=E2=80=9A????*"
"?=E2=80=9A????*"

About what I expected, except for =C3=A9 becoming ,. Now the test. Change=
 the=20
code page and re-paste.
'''
C:\Users\Terry>chcp 65001
Active code page: 65001

C:\Users\Terry>echo "*"
The system cannot write to the specified device.
'''
This a major fail as all non-ascii chars are deleted when pasted (at=20
least visibly) and the echo does not echo. There is no Python involved=20
in this failure.

I am willing to believe that you might have gotten different behavior on =

your French Win 7 machine. Windows is not an international OS, but=20
rather a collection of ghettoized national versions.

As I said before, Idle does work in this regard.

Python 3.4.0a4 (v3.4.0a4:e245b0d7209b, Oct 20 2013, 19:57:58) [MSC=20
v.1600 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
 >>> "=E1=88=B4=C3=A9=E2=82=AC=E3=91=96=D0=83=E2=8C=B4*"
'=E1=88=B4=C3=A9=E2=82=AC=E3=91=96=D0=83=E2=8C=B4*'

--=20
Terry Jan Reedy