Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'referring': 0.07; 'sentence': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'utterly': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'coding': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'guess': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; '14,': 0.36; 'that,': 0.38; 'full': 0.61; 'provide': 0.64; 'anything.': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; 'to:none': 0.92; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=cnT86gpIL8jHKDab/YD38skucTuxl6gxr0ioN2hHAxA=; b=BPF1q9SfFWwTzmZjcaB86/4DoQKL5yqhgOoG448E7cHXOqTUx8vzAcyDKgfg2YSi9b nVHnjKT2UpA0nmVDQMUowaSp0OcbkI3c2YqPZcys12jZl5F8ALwJpIY40S8RqzQeY0o7 UEXbZUMtIwbD0v/JlD20PxXIrXw2rUpUiTRZAGnPFgum6ZxkDxgfbfdQXDqr2wCX0ESk 7wkwOz8YYk1OG4n/U07ja3Gc2xcfvO+K5KL98IhqllUY4ACDzhn6JbrjDRT2PJ+O56TZ LmJ6we/pSRIicr8UC+kpTE5X2EPwcf66idmgrPn0cDf0X3LV5HXLCZLl6o7xLW9X4YS0 ralw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.212.163 with SMTP id nl3mr4990037pbc.25.1386959578689; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:32:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> <5b62c6f8-fb92-48ef-a59a-6025b9b39994@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 05:32:58 +1100 Subject: Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386960895 news.xs4all.nl 2852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59027 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61861 On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 5:27 AM, wrote: > My guess is that you are referring to that > sentence "(With an excellent unicode coding scheme!)". > I do not need to cite anything. That's my opinion. Just as much to what's above it, where you state that MS has produced "a full unicode system". Is that, too, just opinion, utterly unfounded in fact, or can you provide a citation? ChrisA