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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:27:44 +1100
Subject: Re: Python education survey
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Rick Johnson
<rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why install an IDE when IDLE is already there? Oh, yes, IDLE SUCKS. I
> know that already. But this revelation begs the question... Why has
> this community allowed IDLE to rot? Why has guido NOT started a public
> discussion on the matter?

Conversely, why write an IDE into IDLE when perfectly-good IDEs
already exist? I don't use IDLE for development per se; it's for
interactive Python execution, but not editing of source files.

ChrisA