Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'rarely': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'coding': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'finally,': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'received:google.com': 0.35; '14,': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'system,': 0.38; 'system.': 0.39; 'read': 0.60; 'full': 0.61; 'to:none': 0.92; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=7SezghOkqu6qpCTNhJHE6xLytn8+KKUNkzsIfNau+Mg=; b=xSIVWWMJvlDH9UP+NojooYxY/+FHBh3xQS4XcIYADyNCfvCGkYuLVkMHOUJcvkuGGk Yd5qH7jY0yGb1yYf/6o1gimJCazXe4CSa5bNb9XgHNjPxqZx+KF4gP0xjaAYeZuZQn8V KtCYjU3vYpWZa1DjAnHmoYQs8LnGK8cH7ez87Eed4vfJpu9+rd01Z3c2WZoC5TMPUxnG bi6ViUAhsWz72e+xk4kAW8sjKPkBekEoJ00RHYQVORXlSbkRMYJvpaf8dKA76EHKM2pE c/+ZUkYPU+0VSsj7XrMzFli7NEA0kjRm2xVCgzZzRJCgkDys+MMJflG5F8Bv2hhkDq7p SHDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.236.133 with SMTP id uu5mr4162860pbc.153.1386952056098; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 08:27:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5b62c6f8-fb92-48ef-a59a-6025b9b39994@googlegroups.com> References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> <5b62c6f8-fb92-48ef-a59a-6025b9b39994@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 03:27:35 +1100 Subject: Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386952058 news.xs4all.nl 2930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59984 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61832 On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM, wrote: > One should recognize, with win7, MS, finally, produce > a full unicode system. Strangely, among all the "bashing" > one can read about that system, this is rarely mentioned. > (With an excellent unicode coding scheme!) [citation needed] ChrisA