Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!194.134.4.91.MISMATCH!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'causing': 0.04; 'true,': 0.05; 'allowed.': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'arguments,': 0.09; 'back.': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject:extra': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'whatever.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'before.': 0.16; 'cool.': 0.16; 'fine.': 0.16; 'reminded': 0.16; 'subject:when': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'discussions': 0.16; 'followed': 0.16; 'ignore': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "haven't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'suggested': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'specifically': 0.29; 'rest': 0.29; '(this': 0.29; 'andrew': 0.30; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; 'asks': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'public.': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; 'monday,': 0.33; 'totally': 0.33; 'trouble': 0.34; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'no,': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'grateful': 0.36; 'reflect': 0.36; 'representing': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'step': 0.37; 'follows:': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; "you're": 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'making': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'choose': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'late.': 0.68; 'helping': 0.70; '1st': 0.74; 'beside': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'perspective,': 0.84; 'piss': 0.84; 'simmons': 0.84; 'subject:space': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=PXVpXj0RixzVfiWh6r2VufixqLJOOMDL8f2oo7GM1nw=; b=zXBPjjeTQrTfCJviWaHrn0sMjaWWXauNaXiD00YRZDR6rGSb92PBH9+hxdPCo0LdTt +Z0PFsm/WFJjxDBBcbZXngSz7B0/MhhHcKEfyGYDH7W/xHvP4rh/vw7yfRozbSM6gRo+ fh/8I786I9rGwWb6bmSdCxRAKCDJB3wCsQhh2hvA0TZd2NeF4MLDr0QTHuQfrZmUXsZF qDO5MhNmH8uOX/t/ZIwbmzxqFNTIXW41VYftVcIusOLSzcgm8DuybKvKQYvj8j/TtZqS rmaWmb/vbRY9wKsMVoo1D5BiOp7WPyWbym1vxqi/9JVwd/Lne31Vg2j/wDA/crtmaK8Y +0/w== X-Received: by 10.152.120.228 with SMTP id lf4mr12555349lab.65.1372697821444; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:57:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <51d17954$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d1a173$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Joshua Landau Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:56:21 +0100 Subject: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list To: rusi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 54 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372697829 news.xs4all.nl 15891 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55294 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49574 On 1 July 2013 16:49, rusi wrote: > On Monday, July 1, 2013 9:04:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> > And no, i do not want to piss off people like you, who have spend time >> > helping me. >> Too late. I asked you to stop flaming on-list, and you didn't. I am now >> kill-filing you for a month. Feel grateful that it is not permanent, and >> take this time to reflect that you are running out of people willing to >> help you. > > A suggestion (request??) to all list members in this respect: > > We strengthen Steven's decision as follows: > > For the next month (till 1st August) > - No discussions about Nikos specifically or trolling/flaming in general > - No answers to anything he asks (This does not target you, but is a response to your suggested response) No, it's: 1) Insults and off-topic derogatory are not allowed. That's it. If you're insulted, tough. Take it off-list. If you think it's totally and unabashedly Nikos's fault, tough. Take it off-list. If you think Nikos is completely innocent, tough. Take it off-list. Insults and derogatory are not cool. I thought we were adults. If you choose to ignore Nikos's posts, fine. If you choose like me to wait until he asks questions well, fine. Whatever. That's beside the point. As before. no insults, no derogatory. If you don't get why this is not allowed, you need to step back. To put things in perspective, these are the people who have been insulting on this post: Mark Lawrence (once, probably without meaning to be insulting) Nikos Antoon Pardon And here are the people who have reminded them to stop: Steve Simmons Steven D'Aprano Andrew Berg Walter Hurry rusi Joshua Landau (me) So yes, Antoon Pardon and Nikos, please stop. You are not representing the list. I haven't followed any of the other arguments, true, but you two in particular are causing a lot of trouble for the rest of us. It is not hard to avoid making your disagreements public.