Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'sure.': 0.05; ':-)': 0.06; 'does.': 0.07; 'something,': 0.07; 'rotten': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.14; 'constants': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'fruit.': 0.16; 'preprocessor': 0.16; 'yup,': 0.16; '>>>': 0.16; 'example.': 0.19; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.19; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.19; 'language': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'interpreted': 0.23; 'code': 0.24; 'fri,': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'process,': 0.28; "didn't": 0.29; 'version': 0.30; 'chris': 0.32; 'it.': 0.33; 'usually': 0.33; 'done': 0.33; 'someone': 0.34; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.34; 'another.': 0.35; 'compilation': 0.35; 'sometimes,': 0.35; 'probably': 0.35; 'idea': 0.36; 'useful': 0.37; 'anything': 0.37; 'languages': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'showing': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'run': 0.39; 'got': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; "there's": 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'per': 0.60; 'your': 0.61; 'skip:o 30': 0.63; 'prove': 0.64; 'charset:iso-8859-2': 0.66; 'jun': 0.67; 'dnia': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h01igyF2R6jHJULPETsBtR7coRUVdMmToNXzNLCosFs=; b=l2H35neRYfUNAanE4d/eaaeTIIjBXn+Am6O0oqbmAteAWrnpq4yJ6ViDJJJsIZ4yUc qIYb8P/U0MrUjpqcUIxkN5gnd5WuzF+/UM6TCB619yl4kZjiUaeF18My11SUgzWjt90S bZ+Ync8CEAVkcXMiIDlwiMkCq0WqVVmBifrfg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N0hgLoAq+13+WLVnmeNWhfv08bBmtPofl+ccRRbIaEmi4btaJP6p7dDxQy9R5GK6a0 wNYBfNY4SZOPW47n9lmY9ny71LXtLHD0UPlMClzn6Jmvs7LkWpw/Vut05cTlbzzr3+mg JRAcrUNNYDDsPbipPKTnEsKs37amHrY47irNk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1p7xpf3clbhgc.dlg@localhost.localdomain> References: <927fca1e-ca72-4d33-965c-70b812b83d50@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> <192j4fjo2gskg$.dlg@localhost.localdomain> <87y60tnhaa.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <1p7xpf3clbhgc.dlg@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:59:17 +1000 Subject: Re: python 3 constant From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1308999565 news.xs4all.nl 4369 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:50475 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8444 2011/6/25 Waldek M. : > Dnia Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:00:06 +1000, Chris Angelico napisa=B3(a): >>> Yup, got the sarcasm, that's for sure. >>> But your point was...? >> >> That if you want something, there's usually a way to get it. >> Sometimes, giving someone what they want - or showing them how to get >> it - makes it obvious to them whether or not they really want it. >> >> Chris Angelico > > Usually, it does. But presenting me with a fake and > obviously-not-logical-and-useful version of constants didn't really > say anything about why is having constants such a bad idea :-) > Just like presenting me with a rotten apple doesn't prove > anything general about that fruit. In all seriousness, sometimes adding features to one language is best done by dropping to another. This is probably not as useful in interpreted languages like Python, but I have on multiple occasions run code through the C preprocessor as part of my compilation process, as per my example. ChrisA