Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.115 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.80; '*S*': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'affected': 0.07; 'worse': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'losing': 0.16; 'so.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '31,': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'performance': 0.37; 'others.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'supporting': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'more': 0.64; 'believe': 0.68; 'mar': 0.68; 'nobody': 0.68; 'real-world': 0.68; 'subject:long': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=z5BLRrF23ASZLuor5zNGWApt0hIpbxMcM0gQik1wgD4=; b=Ip7puoAqE2BY8uafH6ZOw6rEPDR3UJbC4tIIJEeyr9sbwXjaIlzZHAy8q7enhUk62z 3IXp3x8c4BY6Ep5C/YbSsXMKaR94VxuS7xYm8GYkzy0mzOh8IiKUIRoi0nW6bhsLA7uj zThOAd/TdBqI/8O+EeK7fODuu1BGg0TcyI30SYQ9gYbigZLCf9nAnZT+Y7FLozgKJqgY 07QbLSjurwZLv/kJNvL1qVIU76+ME1e3SiUqIXMWDgt9TKBjkSdp1oDO0BkNZRnmb2RA e0416d5fRk4Iyo4CP6oZKUCJUOo4Of/jDdNFtrx4WtB2QqOWgbrk/f1b0ioKhkJjKuJV Td2A== X-Received: by 10.68.204.164 with SMTP id kz4mr16229624pbc.158.1364795612481; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:53:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6a146aba-a032-4aac-b2d3-7acedcebd804@q3g2000pbv.googlegroups.com> References: <5153a12d$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5153d313$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <0b6be19c-ff11-4e24-a7dc-fec0af411393@kw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <5153f5ce$0$29984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <11ef1d36-0783-4cb2-b29f-9ae573ed7e47@googlegroups.com> <6a146aba-a032-4aac-b2d3-7acedcebd804@q3g2000pbv.googlegroups.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:52:52 -0600 Subject: Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3 To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1364795616 news.xs4all.nl 6878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57425 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42446 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:33 PM, rusi wrote: > > So I really wonder: Is python losing more by supporting SMP with > performance hit on BMP? I don't believe so. Although performance is undeniably worse for some benchmarks, it is also better for some others. Nobody has yet demonstrated an actual, real-world program that is affected negatively by the Unicode change. All of jmf's complaints amount to cherry-picking data and leaping to conclusions.