Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'remind': 0.05; 'overflow': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'reminded': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'missed': 0.15; 'languages.': 0.15; 'c++.': 0.16; 'fly': 0.16; 'pity': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'then?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'integer': 0.18; 'programmer': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'least': 0.27; 'launch': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'error.': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; '"the': 0.32; 'expensive': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.33; 'worked': 0.34; 'done': 0.35; 'replaced': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'projects.': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'anything': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'industry.': 0.63; 'safe': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'military': 0.72; 'coral': 0.84; 'death,': 0.84; 'figueiredo': 0.84; 'mario': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'aircraft': 0.91; 'died': 0.91; 'rocket': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:38:46 +0100 References: <1eee075d-7073-4875-9e42-2e053ee59b41@googlegroups.com> <0784va15gme91mqvoasfub3hvu59ehpepl@4ax.com> <201509102219.14138.gheskett@wdtv.com> <55F3A602.50906@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.66.69 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <55F3A602.50906@gmx.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1442032806 news.xs4all.nl 23813 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44442 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96396 On 12/09/2015 05:11, Mario Figueiredo wrote: > On 12-09-2015 03:35, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >> Ada took over from CORAL in the UK, at least in military projects. It >> was also used in the aircraft industry. My old work mates tell me that >> its completely died a death, to be replaced by C++. Someone please >> remind me never to fly again. > > Alright. But then someone should probably have reminded you that a long > time ago. > > Maybe you missed it when an Ada integer overflow bug produced one of the > most expensive software bugs in history by crashing the Ariane 501 > rocket and its 4 cluster sattelites payload. > > But sure. Don't let that get in your way of thinking there are safe > languages. > Nothing to do with this being untested software then? Actually it was so I'd put that down to a programmer error. "The code always worked before so it's bound to work this time". Such a pity that this particular launch wasn't the same as anything done previously. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence