Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.059 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.01; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'bootstrap': 0.07; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'larry': 0.31; 'front': 0.32; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'manually': 0.60; 'up,': 0.60; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'panel': 0.68; 'computers': 0.72; 'nova': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Jfh4Czp+vTL+r4HI4je9xRAo5YnnpPzyfO9Sw3F6cMg=; b=xqjiE5Ysux5BtyZyrsVj7Ff8yxsOcEUJzoGEpbI7NW8hafYLewrHxPosyQchFfLaOH FRRx8sB1EWHeOXEppZ8YO2MMKsmWGwALPOqVpmilqZH3aiQw7iGLaKwkm1mhkB8OL5Ta ooqWOTBIxvSNy+oFg6GnxOkZCycUIHj/vdsjSDop/KdaGscG2Pylk3TWPyPeAcliiPUd nK3AuIrN5TgkFFyo1yWmtq0NFozZLLh0b2ejvKyApYPtOPudyi2JSKskcOFgfYVjwvM5 ik4o6+32WIyWwG3GbLybZoNBMM1JT8z6AHBJfU1aFkT5MVHBCALpN4pwMkCdBSH8+9th 3MYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.206.116 with SMTP id ln20mr19287158wic.35.1386883102662; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:18:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52A9E990.9070002@gmail.com> References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> <52A9E990.9070002@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:18:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language From: Larry Martell To: bob gailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386883110 news.xs4all.nl 2952 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59133 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61756 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:51 AM, bob gailer wrote: > On 12/11/2013 9:07 PM, Larry Martell wrote: > >> Nope. Long before that I was working on computers that didn't boot when >> you powered them up, You had to manually key in a bootstrap program from the >> front panel switches. > > PDP8? RIM loader, BIN loader? Data General Nova 3