Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news-transit.tcx.org.uk!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'else:': 0.03; 'permissions': 0.04; 'option,': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'context.': 0.09; 'deletion': 0.09; 'finally:': 0.09; 'presume': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'def': 0.13; 'blocking': 0.13; "'w')": 0.16; 'editor,': 0.16; 'f.close()': 0.16; 'had,': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'macosx': 0.16; 'name).': 0.16; 'naming,': 0.16; 'solves': 0.16; 'temp': 0.16; '\xc2\xa0-': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'examples': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'file,': 0.19; 'written': 0.20; 'cheers,': 0.20; 'maybe': 0.21; 'dec': 0.22; 'stuff': 0.22; '(or': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'figure': 0.23; 'mode': 0.25; 'code': 0.25; 'asking': 0.28; 'url:mailman': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'exit': 0.29; 'problem': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'example': 0.29; 'closing': 0.30; 'posts,': 0.30; 'skip:\xc2 20': 0.30; '(the': 0.30; 'least': 0.30; '(as': 0.31; 'subject:?': 0.31; "i've": 0.31; 'like.': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'pretty': 0.32; "isn't": 0.33; "won't": 0.33; 'actually': 0.33; 'rather': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'received:209.85.160': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.34; 'things': 0.34; 'calling': 0.34; 'anything': 0.34; 'conventions': 0.34; 'executable': 0.34; 'parse': 0.34; 'try:': 0.34; 'running': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:209.85.160.46': 0.35; 'received :mail-pw0-f46.google.com': 0.35; 'external': 0.35; 'url:python': 0.36; 'file': 0.36; 'cc:2**1': 0.36; 'none': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'using': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'useful': 0.38; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; "i'd": 0.39; 'url:org': 0.39; 'being': 0.39; "couldn't": 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'received:209': 0.40; 'platforms': 0.40; 'unique': 0.61; '2011': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'efficient': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'results': 0.63; 'opened': 0.64; 'watch': 0.65; 'cameron': 0.73; 'race': 0.77; 'are)': 0.84; 'up;': 0.84; 'canonical': 0.91; 'superb': 0.91; 'conditions,': 0.93; 'scenario': 0.93; 'subject: $': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J+vbiXoq2EwHYC86eoFQGzPI/UfxaID0gs/yaGM/dsE=; b=LtWjJsIpjtHkQgcnIUDVnpnQk/C7Bi76BqUCC4IxAhJcMdUewQaoq+WcaRjySIAfms n9CsVPideR8sUC/g3KJCBwnq93P/4UYDm1RekhKmSzffHmRbOrN6Hf2mOH0QpYlcO08/ i2ycqi1wCDNbIS0mZRiakmFo1aXjO//LVYFqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20111223060218.GA28472@cskk.homeip.net> References: <4EF4009E.8010109@tim.thechases.com> <20111223060218.GA28472@cskk.homeip.net> From: Devin Jeanpierre Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 02:21:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Idiom for shelling out to $EDITOR/$PAGER? To: Cameron Simpson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Python X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 101 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1324624912 news.xs4all.nl 6906 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39983 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:17780 > Anyway, look it up; it has an autodelete mode etc. The autodelete isn't useful in this context. The file needs to be closed and then reopened again; with the autodelete option, the closing would delete the file, preventing it from being opened by the text editor or reopened to check contents. (As far as I know, the race condition inherent in this is unavoidable. At least on windows, but I couldn't figure out any other way on Linux either.) -- Devin On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 22Dec2011 22:16, Tim Chase wrote: > | After a little searching, I've not been able to come up with what > | I'd consider canonical examples of consider calling an external > | editor/pager on a file and reading the results back in. =C2=A0(most of = my > | results are swamped by people asking about editors written in > | Python, or what the best editors for Python code are) > | > | The pseudocode would be something like > | > | =C2=A0 def edit_text(data): > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 temp_fname =3D generate_temp_name() > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 try: > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 f =3D file(temp_fname, 'w') > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 f.write(data) > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 f.close() > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 before =3D info(temp_fname) # maybe stat+checksum? > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 editor =3D find_sensible_editor() > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 subprocess.call([editor, temp_fname]) > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 if before =3D=3D info(temp_fname): > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 return None > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 else: > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 return file(temp_fname).read() > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 finally: > | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 delete_if_exists(temp_fname) > | > | However there are things to watch out for in this lousy code: > | > | -race conditions, unique naming, and permissions on the temp file > > NamedTemporaryFile is your friend. > > | -proper & efficient detection of file-change, to know whether the > | user actually did anything > > Wait for the editor to exit? > In that scenario I go for: > =C2=A0- wait for edit to exit > =C2=A0- if exit status 0 and file non-empty, trust it > =C2=A0 =C2=A0(subject to parse issues afterwards of course) > > | -cross-platform determination of a sensible editor (that blocks > | rather than spawns), using platform conventions like > | os.environ['EDITOR'] > > os.environment.get('EDITOR', 'vi')? > > Some platforms have an executable called "editor" that solves that > problem (absent $EDITOR); MacOSX has "open", though it won't be running > a blocking editor, alas. > > You may need some knowledge of the local system. On a terminal? Easy, > use $EDITOR. No terminal, but $DISPLAY? xterm -e "$EDITOR temp_file", > or the like. No terminal, no $DISPLAY, macosx? I have an incantation > somewhere... > > | -cleanup deletion of the temp-file > > NamedTemporaryFile is your friend. > > | I presume the code for spawning $PAGER on some content would look > | pretty similar. > > Yep. > > | Any good example code (or blog posts, or other links) that has been > | battle-tested? > > Hmm. Nothing directly to had, but regarding the temp file: > > =C2=A0# write contents of the file `fp` into a temp file > =C2=A0with NamedTemporaryFile('w', dir=3Dos.path.join(self.dir, 'tmp')) a= s T: > =C2=A0 =C2=A0T.write(fp.read()) > =C2=A0... do stuff with T.name (the temp file name). > > Anyway, look it up; it has an autodelete mode etc. > > Cheers, > -- > Cameron Simpson DoD#743 > http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ > > I have always been a welly man myself. They are superb in wet grass, let > alone lagoons of pig shit. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Julian Macassey > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list