Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail
Return-Path: <python-python-list@m.gmane.org>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'url:pipermail': 0.05; 'namespace': 0.09; 'pointers': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'appropriate': 0.14; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'url:tutor': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.16; 'stick': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'language.': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'list': 0.34; 'should': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; '(i.e.': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'means': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'pythonistas,': 0.84
X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
To: python-list@python.org
From: Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:34:40 +0100
References: <c3363$547e74fe$5419aafe$24179@news.ziggo.nl> <14afe27e-0bd5-410f-8e64-0f31d496ebf2@googlegroups.com> <b695e$55f34cad$d47876e2$41259@news.ziggo.nl> <55F36B4C.9020007@gmail.com> <mt04ia$lnm$1@ger.gmane.org> <m2twr0s253.fsf@fastmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.66.69
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0
In-Reply-To: <m2twr0s253.fsf@fastmail.com>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Message-ID: <mailman.401.1442032493.8327.python-list@python.org>
Lines: 23
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace: 1442032493 news.xs4all.nl 23852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39062
X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96394

On 12/09/2015 05:16, Random832 wrote:
> Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>> My favourite analogy for Python names, the sticky note, here
>> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2006-October/049767.html
>
> Is player3[3] also a sticky note? Wouldn't the note have to have the id
> of player3 written on it somehow? Should the player3 sticky note have
> the id of the global namespace that "player3" is valid in written on it?
>
> I like my analogy better because it means both player3 and (the list we
> call player3)[3] are both the *same* kind of thing: boxes that have
> pointers in them (i.e. variables).
>

For the final time I hope, "pointer" is not appropriate for Python, so 
I'll stick with the sticky note analogy, thanks all the same.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence