Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Antoon Pardon Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Curious Omission In New-Style Formats Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:01:09 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <834b1cce-38dd-474c-8915-4ff1cd6b27ec@googlegroups.com> <7fcc8c21-106f-41d4-a5ba-409f3b54a56d@googlegroups.com> <5783c91e$0$1622$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57846636$0$1621$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <79cc7bd7-eeda-41c9-ac6d-dd3f4edb319c@googlegroups.com> <578600af$0$1512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <578649A5.7030307@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 63NGSUlz9p1/F3da3bpkFgxrRMrnXCinJTnY/N4tlrSA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:134': 0.05; 'claimed': 0.07; 'wednesday,': 0.07; 'width': 0.07; 'term,': 0.09; 'wednesday': 0.15; '10:49': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'received:ac.be': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'zeroes': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'not,': 0.22; 'either.': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'words': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'page.': 0.28; '13,': 0.29; 'does,': 0.29; 'print': 0.30; 'received:be': 0.30; 'maybe': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'common': 0.33; 'jump': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'expect': 0.37; 'front': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'format': 0.39; 'whatever': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'term': 0.60; 'useful.': 0.72; 'confusing': 0.84; "d'aprano:": 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArIIAHYeUleGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABehFsBvRCGEgKCAAEBAQEBAWaEbQEBBCMPAUURCxgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMIAogrsU2NPoNbAQslgQGFJoRNhQyCNYJZAQSYRYFXjE2JM4Vpj1JUg3CKfgEBAQ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <578600af$0$1512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <578649A5.7030307@rece.vub.ac.be> X-Mailman-Original-References: <834b1cce-38dd-474c-8915-4ff1cd6b27ec@googlegroups.com> <7fcc8c21-106f-41d4-a5ba-409f3b54a56d@googlegroups.com> <5783c91e$0$1622$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57846636$0$1621$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <79cc7bd7-eeda-41c9-ac6d-dd3f4edb319c@googlegroups.com> <578600af$0$1512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111400 Op 13-07-16 om 10:49 schreef Steven D'Aprano: > On Wednesday 13 July 2016 17:05, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 6:22:31 PM UTC+12, Ian wrote: >> >>> I never claimed it's not useful. I don't really have a problem with >>> format supporting it, either. But if it does, then don't call it >>> "precision". >> Like it or not, that is the accepted term, as used in the printf(3) man page. >> >> Feel free not to use common accepted terms if you don’t want. You can use >> words to mean whatever you avocado, but don’t expect other people to carrot. > +1 QOTW But as far as I know, "significant digits" is not the accepted term for the width of the representation when you print a number with added zeroes in front of it. So when we start we a term like "precision" and people jump from that to "significant digits", maybe we should consider how confusing the common accepted term can be. -- Antoon