Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; '16,': 0.03; 'additionally': 0.09; 'complicate': 0.09; 'ide': 0.09; 'subject:software': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'suggest': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; '"good': 0.16; 'choose,': 0.16; 'compares': 0.16; 'debugger.': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'aug': 0.20; 'java': 0.22; '2.x': 0.22; 'tutorials': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'define': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'comparison': 0.29; 'subject:/': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'are:': 0.32; 'choices': 0.33; 'curious': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'clear': 0.35; 'widely': 0.35; 'step': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'version': 0.38; 'hi,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'choose': 0.68; 'subject:wants': 0.76; 'winner': 0.79; '"best': 0.84; 'beside': 0.84; 'subject:Old': 0.84; 'subject:over': 0.84; 'url:app': 0.84; 'crucial': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2UDgt7rYVhz3g5wJydIXJ/Zb8QCH9485RaHq7sYbbu4=; b=VmSnvvYksX/kynH8E6Rsg6k+WII28Fu8RefPGr+fofpmnY2GydIj+LcL99lnSbqbF7 gczCvBx1BtF4D+KHsgzG3tz3XD+76wwZvBbv4mg81Jy1F+YUeSDgs0I5Qa3X8Hp6Ykuz B39tHsfMp3XLpXdPXQzcWpY3b6F54JtPEc1Keua5OMcYIVaJxb7x1C/11IakdQsuHpNt nMQQBGMVsUmoVUHTaoiV0F+i6elR77iOi3vqeYR1uoF4e9cMwQKlaKEJBRUTbQ5L45Mf pQThMzRtDhOzItB/NHLuE5i0RsyqVkXRLAGFqAg7YWNnR+qdrxjurtk+4lfEiv9iBOcl FrrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.232.68 with SMTP id tm4mr45446973pac.157.1439750453375; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:40:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <65e075e4-211b-4800-af04-0ffc9eebd86c@googlegroups.com> References: <12bc0fae-7331-48f2-80fb-831b210cd90d@googlegroups.com> <65e075e4-211b-4800-af04-0ffc9eebd86c@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:40:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Old DbaseV DOS Programmer wants to step over to new/actual modern program software From: Vladimir Ignatov To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1439750462 news.xs4all.nl 2948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38042 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95407 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> I have some ideas in mind like Java with (ECLIPS) because it is very popular, it is the most widely used and can get tutorials and videos all over the internet. >> I've read a lot of good things about Python, that it is much easier but too complicate to define what to choose, >> at the first place witch version 2.x or 3.x, a lot of IDE's to choose from, beside of that witch IDE with what pluggin. Hi, I am using python for years but still curious about best IDE to suggest newbies. IMHO - too many choices with no clear winner and each with its own flaws. For me two crucial features are: good autocompletion and ability to step over code in debugger. I'd try Eclipse+PyDev first and then additionally check PyCharm ($$$) for comparison (to see how "best free" compares to "good commercial") Vladimir https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/python-code-samples/id1025613117