Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Everything good about Python except GUI IDE? Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:33:03 +1100 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <64a6599c-fae1-469d-bcee-875165b3cc7d@googlegroups.com> <56d294f8$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <234a398e-1b0f-467b-a8cb-d7ca748f8062@googlegroups.com> <84922f24-3e00-4a23-b26d-5e6c0d8e7e04@googlegroups.com> <87y4a5c58i.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87twksdg9c.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87d1rgca58.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9grorcb.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de AhY3C/84upwXVLt8XjPC2AaLAVvIKl3kUCQkskzgkW2g== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'dev': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'unexpected': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'blame': 0.16; 'canvas,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '(not': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'feb': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'used,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'mention': 0.30; 'users.': 0.31; 'good.': 0.32; 'jump': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'tool': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'data': 0.39; 'collection': 0.60; 'avoid': 0.61; 'numerous': 0.66; 'guaranteed': 0.67; 'rendering': 0.76; '7:25': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'oil': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=KYsrWPG0O8VOu+M6ylqEZCdiS5oQxKw4vAPEGVWR754=; b=YLD6kXukp1bGE0Rp0fXxYDTO/qVklpHrAIiCsjlIosUle6nqDb0NItYcwiP27bg5Rg 73E2Ol1QuQDYCo4pVTFjSkthWDqPeVDcDTkyKz+z3kmJEUYgmPqk1QhRlFL3zjc0T8jo LxFfcclo+cAe9/DRLf3acYWlQQGxndFAAybLPwSlFNywazEJAXWp3KfeB/jl5hT9Grdf 8qfs9Uj+BQ8mpEMNziIaUdJQqCq2FOJ1JSq9XJfMSlyxWqVsxtSfmfZQhkZSdAcChFlY Cgbv9mhDHU99ooGTbFIt2P0bytoV9QZtscHfHMbuE+queCSOm2A3m7fUrAXxw0szJcny OLdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=KYsrWPG0O8VOu+M6ylqEZCdiS5oQxKw4vAPEGVWR754=; b=EqwxbaTDOFqbBWPHxBZOtnvkH0ZzXT+X7MTtfzcQfGQ1XIOXBU+Na0pDZzVIfR+GiU XPCFgaee26NBExYbtlC25jgx/T69ZgcFGYqmbtwrpCQ9NI2fpHJqGowOP25/oPQVzbDo BoG2F0RaVBi/lJuXv/aDTZB5kR9uUwpIdAMSdoJPROIf7QGfp7CsM6INa1tGrZ/1l/Nk BRIAoU9qM8mb3W48vB9wKkzY+3exW4GXvvCbIbrxyB/mlSAwJMzXVwY3dx3H58Rjayxt B4iUm8q7J57LazGbRdf8uRADo+GESTpJcK1d75oG2fgYlQWfnGJva4gsKvam2tLXvIN3 X76w== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJc1DXpHMKLSJx5/OK8OxQdmirqgf9njU2JeKde9WXFJ/4ZlzTIcEjhI1zrapNaOg7vZJU17QLsE8MOfw== X-Received: by 10.107.47.163 with SMTP id v35mr3873315iov.19.1456734784243; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:33:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87h9grorcb.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103696 On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > As for why you should avoid JS/CSS, Web pages open very slowly, jump > around wildly during rendering and have unexpected artifacts (not to > mention the numerous data collection abuses) when they are encumbered > with truckloads of state-of-the-art web dev gimmicks. And when I pick up a paintbrush, canvas, and oil paints, the result is appallingly hard on the eyes. Clearly oil paints should not be used, and we should just place the brush tastefully on the canvas, because that is guaranteed to look good. Don't blame the tool for its poor users. ChrisA