Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'syntax': 0.04; 'string.': 0.05; '-*-': 0.07; 'continuation': 0.07; 'indicated': 0.07; 'linux,': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'ascii': 0.09; 'output,': 0.09; 'properly.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'throws': 0.09; 'true)': 0.09; 'url:googlecode': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; '2.7': 0.14; 'codec': 0.16; 'encoding.': 0.16; 'exited': 0.16; 'fine.': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:Problem': 0.16; 'subject:UTF': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'url:svn': 0.16; 'followed': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'normally': 0.19; "skip:' 30": 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'print': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'byte': 0.24; 'bytes': 0.24; 'text.': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'software.': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'nearly': 0.26; 'skip:" 40': 0.26; 'code:': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'values': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'appear': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; 'url:code': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'prints': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'themselves': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; '(most': 0.33; 'skip:# 10': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'display': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'marks': 0.36; 'representing': 0.36; 'set.': 0.36; 'surely': 0.36; 'hi,': 0.36; 'error.': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'skip:- 10': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'dave': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'url:index': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'url:p': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'invalid': 0.68; 'press': 0.70; '8bit%:100': 0.72; 'analysis': 0.75; '8bit%:77': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'skip:\xef 10': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: MeCab UTF-8 Decoding Problem Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 11:32:48 -0400 References: <51CEE910.4090701@davea.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 In-Reply-To: <51CEE910.4090701@davea.name> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 84 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372519986 news.xs4all.nl 15918 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45902 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49427 On 6/29/2013 10:02 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > On 06/29/2013 07:29 AM, fobos3@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi, > > Using Python 2.7 on Linux, presumably? It'd be better to be explicit. > >> >> I am trying to use a program called MeCab, which does syntax analysis >> on Japanese text. It is generally nice to give a link when asking about 3rd party=20 software. https://code.google.com/p/mecab/ In this case, nearly all the non-boilerplate text is Japanese ;-(. >> The problem I am having is that it returns a byte string and the problem with bytes is that they can have any encoding. In Python 2 (indicated by your print *statements*), a byte string is=20 just a string. >> and if I try to print it, it prints question marks for almost >> all characters. However, if I try to use .decide, it throws an error. >> Here is my code: > > What do the MeCab docs say the tagger.parse byte string represents? > Maybe it's not text at all. But surely it's not utf-8. https://mecab.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/mecab/doc/index.html MeCab: Yet Another Part-of-Speech and Morphological Analyzer followed by Japanese. >> #!/usr/bin/python >> # -*- coding:utf-8 -*- >> >> import MeCab >> tagger =3D MeCab.Tagger("-Owakati") >> text =3D 'MeCab=E3=81=A7=E9=81=8A=E3=82=93=E3=81=A7=E3=81=BF=E3=82=88=E3= =81=86=EF=BC=81' Parts of this appear in the output, as indicated by spaces. 'MeCab=E3=81=A7=E9=81=8A =E3=82=93=E3=81=A7 =E3=81=BF=E3=82=88 =E3=81=86=EF= =BC=81' >> result =3D tagger.parse(text) >> print result >> >> result =3D result.decode('utf-8') >> print result >> >> And here is the output: >> >> MeCab =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=E3=82=93= =E3=81=A7=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=E3=81=86= =EF=BC=81 Python normally prints bytes with ascii chars representing either=20 themselves or other values with hex escapes. This looks more like=20 unicode sent to a terminal with a limited character set. I would add print type(result) to be sure. >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "test.py", line 11, in >> result =3D result.decode('utf-8') >> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode >> return codecs.utf_8_decode(input, errors, True) >> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 6-7: >> invalid continuation byte >> >> >> ------------------ >> (program exited with code: 1) >> Press return to continue >> >> Also my terminal is able to display Japanese characters properly. For >> example print '=E6=97=A5=E6=9C=AC=E8=AA=9E' works perfectly fine. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy