Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.056 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'insert': 0.05; 'model,': 0.05; 'provisioning': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; '"we': 0.16; '(it': 0.16; 'bus.': 0.16; 'dump': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'guys,': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'statements,': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'fit': 0.20; 'cloud': 0.22; 'documented': 0.24; 'replace': 0.24; 'initial': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'waste': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'went': 0.31; 'usually': 0.31; 'loads': 0.31; "we're": 0.32; 'amazon': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'basic': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'disk': 0.36; 'explains': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'performance': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'heard': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'money.': 0.60; 'decided': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; '2000': 0.65; '30,': 0.65; 'mar': 0.68; 'forums': 0.68; 'shortly': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; '"hey,': 0.84; 'insert,': 0.84; 'subject:find': 0.84; 'bandwidth': 0.96; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=o9l3wLT3MVk9SEvoLXNQgDlHY2QvcQVpOKrfCniOf7g=; b=JzBsVqBokRA1NvSnvbY39EXCV+6+6olFHkikF2t8BXjJ2WcE0YVXXDJY5JNVwO4OAj 400HHNlAGgix1ABpnxT/uzcgdL0k9U1nyNuczy8JV9Y7HidIzHcWhn0ly6vZ6LOubU0o mb/wtAd3ulsE4lIMIIXaJbLVZd+BmPEauFngDYtzJOB97N62LGnazdcky5+9Pe+3BnJ5 0PjQ7gVm82+wAB4+WbR76IFYl8leN+LKlIZnN6g6MocUSNNaUc6F8aAyI6hJQn2x1hNI iKjV1842z2Qpqdvfo0sUOVSJSQDITz7OnqEtK3aq97cwvDpNKgJ9+A2+FGGgxOckFVhx 6huQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.67.164 with SMTP id o4mr2942559vdt.42.1364613278253; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 20:14:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5155E32A.1000403@davea.name> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:14:38 +1100 Subject: Re: How to find bad row with db api executemany()? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1364613280 news.xs4all.nl 6886 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49770 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42306 On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Especially facepalm because there's some way to do this that's faster >> than straight INSERT statements, and it's not clearly documented as >> "hey, guys, if you want to dump loads of data in, use COPY instead" >> (it might be that, I don't know, but usually COPY isn't directly >> transliterable with INSERT). > > We're actually using REPLACE INTO. For the initial data load, we could > just as well do INSERT, but we need the REPLACE functionality as we roll > in the daily incremental updates. > > This also explains why, even after provisioning our RDS instance for > 2000 IOPS (that's AWS-speak for "we paid extra to get more disk > bandwidth"), we didn't see any performance improvement! Hmm. I heard around the forums that Amazon weren't that great at disk bandwidth anyway, and that provisioning IO was often a waste of money. But we never did all that much much research on Amazon I/O performance; shortly after doing some basic benchmarking, we decided that the cloud was a poor fit for our system model, and went looking at dedicated servers with their own RAID storage right there on the bus. ChrisA