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Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 01:43:26 +1000
Subject: Re: anomaly
From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:34 AM, zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 8:56:32 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> * when it comes to built-in functions (e.g. sum, map, pow)
>>   and types (e.g. int, str, list) there are significant and
>>   important use-cases for allowing shadowing;
>
> Name one "significant and important" use case for shadowing built-in types.  Functions, I don't have a problem with, but types are more fundamental than functions.
>

Please tell me what, precisely, is the difference between a type and a
function. Once you've settled that, please explain to me what the
built-in name 'int' is in all versions of Python.

ChrisA