Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.160 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.68; '*S*': 0.00; 'prototyping': 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; 'repeated': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'language,': 0.12; 'missed': 0.12; 'quantum': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'followed': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'meant': 0.20; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'helpful': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'posts': 0.26; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'bigger': 0.30; 'dec': 0.30; 'moved': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'posting': 0.31; 'bunch': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'minor': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'so-called': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'trivial': 0.31; 'themselves': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'community': 0.33; 'ago': 0.33; 'comment': 0.34; 'message.': 0.35; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'december': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'tech': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'shows': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'half': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'loss': 0.38; 'problems': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '(from': 0.39; '12,': 0.39; 'bad': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'unable': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'future': 0.60; 'chain': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'forum': 0.61; 'course': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'further': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'email,': 0.69; 'caused': 0.69; 'article': 0.77; 'conscious': 0.84; 'dismay': 0.84; 'distinguish': 0.84; 'newcomer': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'reply,': 0.93; 'responses': 0.93; '<>*': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2WcJAtvpGxhZcbv9di9KA+zMbJEpqlyGP2T4rOQkdO8=; b=wWMzCQQfFfQc7la2mY4j4wrwp7hRkd8a/pqyA5Z5Kdj9F7MOSl2VNBTkBwtlih1Z4q SRGfm0V6Tan0iSoB3rVzkZPA7KEVHLK2DtNpkQrC4ZMRsG9PZCyBt6a2n0sJLhmL/hW1 hUWhuVVUr74A4NBHbLib8nQ4GRv0qfB4naP9jEIIuPJoyV/I5STEWRVlrL2zaZcbU/v0 ifAFBhJ3W7gNH8gVy8uY5lVE/rm8BzN09YTL0SMeJBBzlUqw9zwqYJmdV9/1A1zj4WmL k8NLOCHqkydEOLTD8l55dkyL9IO/ccsia0M1dEWMb5StnU/dwMnPY6LVouwZ0G4P8K4w Ee5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.28.72 with SMTP id l8mr2490620qac.35.1386826787155; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:39:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2bdede86-0287-4349-801a-a125a0ed7ece@googlegroups.com> References: <52a84061$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <2bdede86-0287-4349-801a-a125a0ed7ece@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 00:39:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Trouble with Multi-threading From: David Hutto To: rusi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1c9a60391a404ed4fc6de Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 151 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386826796 news.xs4all.nl 2892 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50672 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61664 --001a11c1c9a60391a404ed4fc6de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you really want to have a discussion on multi-threading, then look at quantum bits/computers, and let's see where python can go from the real future of prototyping language, to the expert in it. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM, rusi wrote: > On Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:30:38 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote: > > In article Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > > When did this forum become so intolerant of even the tiniest, most > minor > > > breaches of old-school tech etiquette? Have we really got nothing > better > > > to do than to go on the war path over such trivial issues? Out of five > > > responses to the Original Poster's email, there was *one* helpful > reply, > > > followed by no fewer than four people playing "Stacks on the n00b" > making > > > the same comment about being unable to delete the message. I'm sure all > > > four of you think you are ever such wits, but you're only half right. > > > I believe I started off the chain of responses you're referring to. I > > meant it semi-humorously, but also with a point. It is clear it turned > > out to be harmful, and for that I apologize. > > Sniping at someone -- especially a newcomer -- for a piece of technical > irrelevantia is unfortunate. However your semi-humorous pointing out > was good because it shows that all posting methods have their hiccups: > > html mail > undesired and nonsensical footers > reply/reply-all mixups > repeated posts > long and double-spaced lines > others Ive missed > > Reminds me that sometime ago when GG was habitually double-posting, > Steven started quadruple-posting, giving some of us a rare leg-pulling > opportunity :D > > > I share your dismay at where this group is going, and feel bad that I > > inadvertently moved it further in that direction. > > Unnecessary and uncalled for irascibility is of course a degradation. > > But (from my pov) a bunch of people -- especially so-called techies -- > unable to distinguish the following 3 is a much bigger degradation. > > 1 Problems caused by conscious malefic intent > 2 Kids/noobs/ignoramuses/immature just being themselves > 3 Problems of communication technology > > Conflating 1,3 with 2 will drive many of them (2s) away which is a > significant loss for the community > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- Best Regards, David Hutto *CEO:* *http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com * --001a11c1c9a60391a404ed4fc6de Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you really want to have a discussion on multi-threading= , then look at quantum bits/computers, and let's see where python can g= o from the real future of prototyping language, to the expert in it.


On Wed,= Dec 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:30:38 AM UT= C+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
> In article Steven D'Aprano =A0wrote:

> > When did this forum become so intolerant of even the tiniest, mos= t minor
> > breaches of old-school tech etiquette? Have we really got nothing= better
> > to do than to go on the war path over such trivial issues? Out of= five
> > responses to the Original Poster's email, there was *one* hel= pful reply,
> > followed by no fewer than four people playing "Stacks on the= n00b" making
> > the same comment about being unable to delete the message. I'= m sure all
> > four of you think you are ever such wits, but you're only hal= f right.

> I believe I started off the chain of responses you're referring to= . =A0I
> meant it semi-humorously, but also with a point. =A0It is clear it tur= ned
> out to be harmful, and for that I apologize.

Sniping at someone -- especially a newcomer -- for a piece of technic= al
irrelevantia is unfortunate. However your semi-humorous pointing out
was good because it shows that all posting methods have their hiccups:

html mail
undesired and nonsensical footers
reply/reply-all mixups
repeated posts
long and double-spaced lines
others Ive missed

Reminds me that sometime ago when GG was habitually double-posting,
Steven started quadruple-posting, giving some of us a rare leg-pulling
opportunity :D

> I share your dismay at where this group is going, and feel bad that I<= br> > inadvertently moved it further in that direction.

Unnecessary and uncalled for irascibility is of course a degradation.=

But (from my pov) a bunch of people -- especially so-called techies --
unable to distinguish the following 3 is a much bigger degradation.

1 Problems caused by conscious malefic intent
2 Kids/noobs/ignoramuses/immature just being themselves
3 Problems of communication technology

Conflating 1,3 with 2 will drive many of them (2s) away which is a
significant loss for the community
--
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--
Best Rega= rds,
David Hutto<= /span>
CEO: http://www.hitwebdevelopment.com
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