Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.052 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'only,': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; '(both': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'received)': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'subject:skip:d 10': 0.36; 'operating': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'worldwide': 0.61; 'traffic': 0.61; 'companies': 0.62; 'you.': 0.62; 'act': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'within': 0.65; 'cable': 0.84; 'dispatched': 0.84; 'british': 0.87; 'surveillance': 0.91; 'whereas': 0.91; 'secrets': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: The increasing disempowerment of the computer user Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 02:35:19 +0000 References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> <7wbo0mlsgd.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-219-208.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: <7wbo0mlsgd.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386815745 news.xs4all.nl 2883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43846 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61652 On 12/12/2013 02:21, Ben Finney wrote: > Only, now we get worldwide unaccountable surveillance as part of the deal. > Whereas the 1920 UK Official Secrets Act required all international cable companies operating on British terrority to submit copies of all their traffic (both dispatched and received) within ten days of transmission. Now there's accountability for you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence