Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'url:pypi': 0.03; 'subject:Django': 0.03; 'importing': 0.05; 'incompatible': 0.07; 'deploy': 0.09; 'resolved,': 0.09; 'subject:PyPI': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'django': 0.11; 'dig': 0.16; 'levels,': 0.16; 'pypi.': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:making': 0.16; 'subject:reports': 0.16; 'url:faq': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'implementing': 0.19; 'help.': 0.21; 'previously': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'faq': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'reporting': 0.29; 'evaluation': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'aims': 0.31; 'alan': 0.31; 'dropped': 0.31; 'servers.': 0.31; 'txt': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'announce': 0.33; 'skip:_ 10': 0.34; 'format.': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'reports': 0.37; 'project': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'feedback': 0.38; 'gmail': 0.38; 'lists.': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'company': 0.60; 'monitoring': 0.61; 'address': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'mar': 0.68; 'policy.': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'asian': 0.84; 'dkim': 0.84; 'subject:Beta': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=p-o.co.uk; s=mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=JOz5g2fAmtbLy8jfZvBnYb4Fs+93ZZCJ0dxzQqHFCFI=; b=sc5/5iGIN6/X6kFatk0wvFBK73Z8UrtWHM0+qALi6L4YPJS1oykR0k8wc3De1HGicX4ms4F3FG8JEXvkj9a2C0pZg6v5YGExkooY7wAAQAAlvFqUMF+PXOwiOU0dPHdmmvuKC55G2U2dAIBBM0NkyH1mwYkkaia2odx3Nd+JRQg=; Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:20:55 +0000 From: Alan Hicks Organization: Persistent Objects Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Angelico CC: "python-list@python.org" Subject: Re: Django-DMARC making it easier to manage DMARC reports - Beta 0.1.3 on PyPI References: <54FD72F8.3080706@p-o.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-As: uid=alan X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 17:07:08 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426435630 news.xs4all.nl 2932 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45043 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87475 On 13/03/2015 11:58, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:16 PM, Alan Hicks wrote: >> With defending reputations as important as receiving email I'm pleased to >> announce another beta of django-dmarc 0.1.3 is released to PyPI. >> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-dmarc >> >> The Django DMARC project aims to help with implementing DMARC "Domain-based >> Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance" and ongoing monitoring by >> importing feedback reports about messages that pass and/or fail DMARC >> evaluation into a more easily digested format. > > Welcome to irony. Your message got dropped into my Gmail spam box > because DMARC is incompatible with mailing lists. > > Until that can be resolved, I don't want to deploy either end of DMARC > for any of my domains or mail servers. > > ChrisA > Mailing lists are an issue on many levels, and dmarc has an faq that may help http://dmarc.org/faq/receivers/#r_2 I take your point, though when defending a reputation, dmarc along with spf and dkim are tools that can help. Gmail are in the process of implementing dmarc, try dig _dmarc.gmail.com txt for their current policy. My company along with many others has previously been impersonated by asian spam (Korean I think). With a few clients that deal internationally including asia it's important to be pro-active and address spam both for my company and as a good netizen reduce the effect on others as well - we all win. It's work in progress hence django-dmarc. Alan