Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.157 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.18; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject: [': 0.09; 'gentle': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.18; 'url:home': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'correct': 0.29; '-0700,': 0.31; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'subject:]': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'mar': 0.68; '(is': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'politically': 0.84; 'subject:long': 0.84; 'instrument': 0.93; 'received:108': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: flaming vs accuracy [was Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3] Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:53:57 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <0b779c80-4f50-4716-8c30-47755c15f304@m12g2000yqp.googlegroups.com> <5153a12d$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5153DF45.9030203@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-222-95.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1364514854 news.xs4all.nl 6934 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42204 On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:12:21 -0700, Ethan Furman declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > At some point we have to stop being gentle / polite / politically correct and call a shovel a shovel... er, spade. Call it an Instrument For the Transplantation of Dirt (Is an antique Steam Shovel ever a Steam Spade?) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/