Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'windows': 0.15; 'finds': 0.16; 'reboot': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'windows?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'translated': 0.19; 'thanks.': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'portion': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'own.': 0.24; 'url:moin': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'unix': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'software,': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'respects': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'subject:all': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'combination': 0.36; 'installing': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'problems': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'embedded': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'needing': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'user,': 0.69; 'subject:you': 0.87; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: I hate you all Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:39:19 +0100 References: <64d4fb7c-6a75-4b5f-b5c8-06a4b2b5d0cb@googlegroups.com> <906d8c05-99dc-4209-854c-7988ca7c78e3@googlegroups.com> <95b2bc1c-57a2-48c9-85ea-cf1004c9e26c@googlegroups.com> <5160cc44$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5164a26e$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-18-43-197.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: <5164a26e$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130409-1, 09/04/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365550682 news.xs4all.nl 2585 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44547 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43238 On 10/04/2013 00:21, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:09:19 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > >> On 09/04/2013 22:09, Walter Hurry wrote: >>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:51:26 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>>> Having never really used a *nix box in anger how would I know? A >>>> substantial portion of my career was spent on a combination of VMS, C >>>> with embedded SQL and Ingres. Please don't ask as I don't know the >>>> answer :) >>> >>> Anti-virus, anti-malware, defragmenters, registry cleaners, needing to >>> reboot every time I install or update software? >>> >>> No grep, no awk, no sed? >>> >>> No thanks. >>> >>> But never mind; each to his own. I don't want to spark OS wars. >>> >>> >> I haven't the faintest idea what your response means so please explainn. > > > Walter is pointing out that as a Windows user, you probably have to deal > with problems that Unix users are barely even aware of, like viruses, the > registry, having to reboot after installing software, etc., and you are > missing out on oodles of useful and powerful tools like grep. He finds > your decision to use Windows curious, but respects your decision to use > it and doesn't want to get into an unproductive war over which is the > best OS. > How did VMS get translated into Windows? :) -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence