Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.146 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.72; '*S*': 0.01; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'say.': 0.16; 'saying.': 0.16; 'talk:': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'comparing': 0.24; 'this:': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'statement': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'larry': 0.31; 'url:06': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'says': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '(from': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'url:12': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'skip:w 30': 0.69; 'remark': 0.84; 'url:2007': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; 'subject:looking': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5dhcynmPN0FVXSvFwh+b80nZE8r/TShMdVCu+oEd598=; b=P0BqbQNfxImhTLiSjgbON0WiO+B2OaNHcXTdz0VgIDroRc0loyd2hPOBUGnX78eLOY plKBKwhs9Vz4F9lRLbO6Qtw+da3yBRbkP5fPNXCx277tSHrMi5o1NCexviZxooYZF9Hv 1bezPMFqNSBAOQPXxkYBIlBYBTQeGXez75MTpaSpJanZ046OvG5BSxC5smVMomyIlyRz PKOkw9rR0k8WbOsKW/0h6JFJLmzEl4FNffC/d02Ze3NCTWhHYuwYzrL1K2feKOnU/vn4 q991nbRoWhgH5vl9AVgZ2yR+mobUVbVmCXokAo3AZYpuP+80PfokYNLkft1555rQjqWa EYsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.187.4 with SMTP id fo4mr3319280vec.55.1372331963682; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:19:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:19:23 +1000 Subject: Re: looking for a linguistical/semiotic quote From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372331966 news.xs4all.nl 15942 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38203 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49308 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM, rusi wrote: > I am looking for a quote > (from Whorf/Sapir/Wittgenstein/Humboldt dunno... that 'school') > > It goes something like this: > > What characterizes a language is not what we can say in it but what we must -- like it or not -- say. I think you may be looking for Larry Wall's statement in his State of the Onion talk: http://www.perl.com/pub/2007/12/06/soto-11.html He's comparing human and programming languages and says pretty much what you're saying. Of couse, he's probably not the first person to have made that remark in some form or another... so you may still be looking for someone else. ChrisA