Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Django': 0.03; 'subject:PyPI': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'changes': 0.15; 'blocked': 0.16; 'excellent,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'levels,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:making': 0.16; 'subject:reports': 0.16; 'url:faq': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'unlike': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'faq': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '15,': 0.26; 'nearly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'alan': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'lists.': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.39; 'benefit': 0.68; 'mar': 0.68; 'records,': 0.69; '2015': 0.84; 'subject:Beta': 0.84; 'dealt': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=4imA0uHkFYkorF4hwkFJ6PI6EQ3VUXbqo3iQwD7lwxk=; b=nclxRK37tQGF/OvY1/S6e9OLn5KHHxFwsZi7SK944dtX7J025rMHV/tHnTmbsoLr1W qyHILGLiVBYHXtmgVr8WqmLmj6un3+7d20FyoX6nfs3K1RJpWsdy+xGviSXZs5ihCRZm KR54QXAE6M+UoPZ3qGfH0OYBocojSYbkDJGPLp8lhYJ7k7nCsZn9Pr6MnK3UZAcoo+8N fM1kotyKBOkZNXPbqZBb6YP8JriKMxM7pJtFMIpEZdVvvVYO58kAH7PSpknWjEBo0Xqj BoGlNBPsgSo7iN1Vk/EE9BY6UTKA/ZOUjE1HDwIa/72Q2a8UE0Yu3hx8bKJdSkaFtsRm h6FA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.16.31 with SMTP id y31mr33770650ioi.53.1426422577097; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 05:29:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55057927.9020502@p-o.co.uk> References: <54FD72F8.3080706@p-o.co.uk> <55057927.9020502@p-o.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:29:37 +1100 Subject: Re: Django-DMARC making it easier to manage DMARC reports - Beta 0.1.3 on PyPI From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426422585 news.xs4all.nl 2863 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50010 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87471 On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Alan Hicks wrote: > Mailing lists are an issue on many levels, and dmarc has an faq that may > help http://dmarc.org/faq/receivers/#r_2 No, they're not; the issue is only with DMARC. I have no problems with mailing lists and SPF records, because the list software changes the envelope addresses. Mailing lists are excellent, and I run a number of them - but not nearly as many as I'm a member of - and spam can be dealt with in the absence of DMARC. I've seen no benefit from it, unlike with SPF which has blocked no end of dead mail; and it causes issues on several lists. ChrisA