Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'say.': 0.07; '(sorry,': 0.09; '21,': 0.09; 'dev': 0.09; 'essential.': 0.09; 'debugging': 0.13; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.13; 'received:mail-iy0-f174.google.com': 0.13; 'forgotten': 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; "\xa0it's": 0.16; 'wed,': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'lines,': 0.18; 'say,': 0.19; 'dec': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'code': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'print': 0.29; 'error': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'lines': 0.30; 'far,': 0.30; 'goto': 0.30; "i'll": 0.31; 'people,': 0.32; 'that,': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'jump': 0.34; 'statement,': 0.34; 'especially': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'opposed': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'page': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'couple': 0.38; 'easier': 0.38; "it's": 0.40; 'received:209': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'extremely': 0.40; 'more': 0.61; '2011': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'kind': 0.61; 'below': 0.63; 'computers': 0.64; 'number.': 0.66; 'easily.': 0.67; '\xa0but': 0.84; 'about,': 0.91; 'alone,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lPRUdk13u2V0IHH6dY5ra1/DeohJhPjYrrTiJDhBAc0=; b=R2HWJgzR4F8NINpoeI9rThFRhqHUfEo/L6xLcfoX7o0SPROEpaWab0bWr//E0/8sXR kTCvqNG4Qo5GfRFvggUVhrQ1bVru+FRmTQLGpSZ7Y0SK1Wx8AcvZ58RrPqUwK+kwIxST 0iZ4zKRyz15OLTBiYGoTzKkFCzMCkAuw7A0Jw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <06423dd7-4fbb-4e7a-b529-e697ea862b05@f11g2000yql.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:44:27 +1100 Subject: Re: Python education survey From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1324435471 news.xs4all.nl 6884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54716 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:17641 On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > As for line numbers, for working alone, I don't see much point. =A0But fo= r > any kind of interaction with other people, it's essential. =A0It's just S= O > much easier to say, "line 417" as opposed to "OK, scroll up a couple > more lines, no, no, not that far, go down a little. =A0There! =A0See that > print statement, now go down three lines below that, ..." =A0By the time > the two of you are on the same page about which line of code you're > talking about, you will have forgotten what you wanted to say. Ctrl-G in many editors will let you GOTO (sorry, I'll try to keep this PG-13) a specific line by number. Extremely handy, especially when you're debugging across computers - the error message comes up on your test computer and cites the line number, and you jump to it on your dev easily. ChrisA