Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.046 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.01; ';-)': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'steve': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'question.': 0.14; 'brilliant': 0.16; 'dig': 0.16; 'folks,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'knight': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'url:title': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; "we're": 0.32; 'beginning': 0.33; 'moment': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'skip:u 20': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'impression': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'behind': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'catch': 0.60; 'then,': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'taking': 0.65; 'shortly': 0.68; 'url:asp': 0.77; 'introduce': 0.78; '(all)': 0.84; 'simmons': 0.84; 'storytelling': 0.84; 'villains': 0.84; 'story,': 0.91; 'temple': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=UKiKRMr/A8WuyntKaJUq9G1PWg/xe1usvytmtk+AeX8=; b=cBciYf8qS9cjNplwDKgSmdO9Wr/KLuxqEoVZ3IqJXeAokqQ7ONJoHurar05QVm6Vda Lh7HS2omUIXQe5knXQ5mTs3/L+SbqETEiNljtH59+qywLXnyjABFVzgKEyQYutV2ljJP g6YX9/k9iv1vn4tpv6oUg1y6hG4OUhfgODJMELCo+++V2in/2axf/beNIKu5jb8BrG4v 1BTOL3LWs8q2X2org8GV+XuuNfRnbvVjlRXuLxumAzwy5LwlawabRcIPo0/RIi9/CHSf MpgHfi/visBgDXd4iagcygY9Qei39HaiQj86BNRrV4f5X1JMbjUgts0sTaswlJHh4Khc DDVg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.236.133 with SMTP id uu5mr1051587pbc.153.1386763342632; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 04:02:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52A84D9D.9030608@gmail.com> References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> <52A84D9D.9030608@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:02:22 +1100 Subject: Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386763352 news.xs4all.nl 2892 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46520 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61556 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Steve Simmons wrote: > > On 11/12/2013 11:45, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> And then, shortly after the beginning of the story, you need to >> introduce the villain. Thanks, jmf, for taking that position in our >> role-play storytelling scenario! A round of applause for jmf, folks, >> for doing a brilliant impression of the uninformed-yet-fanatical >> Knight Templar villain! >> >> ChrisA > > > Oi! You!! > > I'll have you know I'm a bona fide Knight of the Temple and we're not (all) > villains! > If I catch you calling us villains again, I'll slide up behind you in the > mud and dig you > with my ceremonial sword! ;-) Mister Simmons, Mister Simmons! We are not for one moment doubting your sincerity. It's just your intelligence that's in question. [1] [1] http://www.thegoonshow.net/scripts_show.asp?title=s06e19_the_jet_propelled_guided_naafi ChrisA Attempting to atone for pointing people to TVTropes... or maybe to be hung for a sheep rather than a lamb....